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hits me oh my gosh this is that triangle

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it wasn't involved aliens at all it was

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completely silent it comes right over

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our head it's so classic flying-saucer

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really standing in the clearing he

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turned over to my father and held his

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hand and he looked in his eyes and said

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there so anyway again our show is with

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Caroline Corey coming right up and right

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now we have Alejandro Rojas

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how are you hello I come in peace yes

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I'm glad you do yeah so how you should

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be glad because if I didn't who I know

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eyes would be this planet would be

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leveled that's right

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leveled I saw your killer dog there a

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few minutes ago oh yeah I was looking

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for that cute little guy who's gonna

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give you guys a shot at our cute little

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dog but he walked away it looked like so

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he realized I didn't have food and and

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wandered to scavenge elsewhere I guess

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hmm so what's going on in the UFO world

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so what's going on in UFOs so um we you

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and I covered the story not too long ago

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of this this deputy sheriff from Texas

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who said he was driving from Texas to

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Roswell in 1947 and he saw the crashed

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Roswell saucer so what he claims and

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however some people looked into his

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background and you know they found that

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he wasn't even a sheriff deputy at that

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time not and he was I guess before then

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and then after 1953 so they were

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thinking well it was probably not until

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1953 he actually saw this this whatever

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this crash was but we do have some more

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details on this so this was a witness

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discovered by Irena Scott who I believe

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you've had on the show yes mm-hmm so if

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I well it was part of her book UFOs

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today which was published by Philip

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mantel so she's been working with him on

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this well they did get a hold of his

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nephew who said that this guy is a

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straight shooter he's not a liar at all

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he's not a kid or he doesn't really have

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much of a sense of humor so if he said

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whatever he said it it was probably true

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then they were able through him to get

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ahold of the son and the son said they

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didn't f you I should add said he never

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shared that story with him so he was not

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aware of this story of seeing this crap

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then they got a hold of the son the son

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says the same thing my dad was an honest

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person to if he said this happened to

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happen when they asked him or what about

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the discrepancies there and he said well

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everything correctly dates and times and

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stuff but I think it was you know

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Roswell that he saw the Roswell crash

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although he did admit that he didn't

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know what he saw at first so his father

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thinking that these were

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extraterrestrials and a crash flying

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later when he was seeing these

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television shows that he said oh that's

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what I saw so I don't know I don't think

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this is that strong of a case but there

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is some more information that Phillip

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at do you remember this oh yeah I do I

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do remember it but also you know is it a

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possibility there was another crash like

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do I dare say a UFO crash I think

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there's a very real possibility that

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there was another crash dare I say a

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human aircraft that crashed so I think

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that is very very possible unfortunately

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so yeah we I just don't feel we out of

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anything strong enough to put them there

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and then we also don't have anything

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strong enough to say for sure it was

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anything even out of the ordinary

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crash I don't think you're gonna be like

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pretty freaked out yeah not about being

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him to watch for a period of time and

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and it was unusual well we know

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something crashed but it didn't crash on

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the side of the highway it's deep in the

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desert I have been and not close to any

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highways I think that was the flag that

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saying was right near the highway and

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Irina's talked to this guy I'm not sure

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if Phillip has but they've got a video

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of him before he passed he's passed away

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and you know sounds like by all accounts

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he's an honest person

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once they've gotten older can make a

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mistake

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yeah I make them all the time right

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right and you know there's a lot of fun

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with me that I make a lot of mistakes

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about memory of how memory can change

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and like you your jamberry can change

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about what you remember that's why it's

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so important if you see something really

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unusual to document it right away

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exactly memory is very fallible and

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malleable so there's plenty especially

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lately of studies that have gone on

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where it shows that people's memories

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are completely manipulated it's very

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easy to ask something someone about

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something that happened and their

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memories and we know this from talking

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with family you know your parents story

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about how you tripped you know and in

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cried and ran out of the room or

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whatever you know gets exaggerated and

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exaggerated more and more all of these

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stories get exaggerated and people are

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prone to do that and then these memories

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so yeah memory is a very fallible thing

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they find that out more and more so well

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someone just said they don't believe you

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make any mistakes in the chat room you

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know and I'm surprising him that no one

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in the chat room talked about your

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Denver Broncos shirt yet me making

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mistakes is rare despite what my

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girlfriend says are you know why and she

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pointed this out earlier because if I

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make a mistake I blame it on her so it

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was actually her fault not mine so

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that's why I don't make mistakes all

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right but yeah Denver Broncos yeah

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they're pretty cool my hometown but okay

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this is the old school when I grew up

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this was their logo anyway other news

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so more Roswell news and this has to do

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with the alien autopsy so I think we

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week but to summarize you know there was

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an interview with in the guy named mile

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Spyros malarious and that this was kind

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of the first time he came forward and it

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where he said I'm the guy who made the

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famous alien autopsy film I'm the one

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who got all the 40 style stuff and he

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told the story about how he did all this

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it was a fairly short story well not to

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be

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out done a couple days later Ray

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person attached to this film he's the

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guy who paid for it to get made in

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everything he came forward and said no

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malarious is wrong sure it is a hoax

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video I've admitted that we hoax it but

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it was based off of this film that was

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meantime philip mantle who we talked

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about just a second ago he's probably

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the one who's investigated this the most

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he's broken a lot of these stories he's

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talking to malarious before and John

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actually designed the alien and he

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posted at open mind to that TV his full

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a summary of his full investigation and

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malarious is very clear so his Humphries

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we did not see any allegedly real film

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we made this alien up from our own

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imaginations in fact Ray Santilli had

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shown them what he said was film of the

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the original film he was provided and

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malarious quickly said that was shot

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with video and Santilli got embarrassed

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and they kind of broke up broke apart

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and then molera said hey that wasn't

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real but it would be fun to make a real

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one and then see what happens

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we'll make a documentary about how you

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know we have this real footage and then

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we'll make a follow-up documentary about

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how we faked it on we tricked everybody

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well they did that they created the

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alien and everything then they brought

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Santilli in and said hey look we've

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created this film that looks real why

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don't we go out and chop this around so

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they eventually got a hold of this

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filmmaker Bob kiveat and the film was

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shot they made millions of dollars huge

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success but of course at that time Ray

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Santilli wanted to continue to push the

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story that it was not fake

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original video was fake or a film was

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vacant then they tried to pretend that

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you know he had a piece that was real

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and then a movie was made by starring a

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couple comedians in the UK they showed a

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little part of this film that was

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allegedly real Santilli again tried to

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pretend it was real

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as Humphries and others n Millar's have

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said no that was all made up we made

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that up for the film as well the movie

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with the comedian's about all of this

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well Ray Santilli decides to talk to the

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malarious is completely wrong well he

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included he said here's a little piece

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of the real film here's a image of the

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real film that he provided the Sun no

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I'm sorry the Daily Express the Daily

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Express posted this image and very

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quickly his name is scott brando he runs

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a site UFO of interest he tweeted me and

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he said look that isn't part of any

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original film all he did was take a clip

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from the fake the the hoax video and he

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made it a negative and then he

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manipulated it with photoshop to make it

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look old and sure enough he shows him

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right next to each other and that's

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exactly what he did The Daily Express

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read our story on this and so they got

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their own expert who confirmed yeah this

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is just a Photoshop of a clip from the

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footage that he has already admitted to

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have hoaxing sews until he's got some

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more funny business going on here so

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Daily Express tried to confront him and

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he just won't answer them he said at one

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point he said he was too busy one time

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he said he was driving he they emailed

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him and said you know hey that you tried

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to trick us on this and NS reply was

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1947 they assume it means it wasn't real

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response but he's written about this on

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the Daily Express and we have this up at

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open minds TV but essentially it all

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comes around again at the silly Santilli

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guy Freudian slip there when I call him

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silly guy but is not to be trusted that

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he's a tricky guy and yeah just not to

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be trusted so I'll go on the record as

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calling him a slime ball he is a slime

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ball I agree with that

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so yeah I mean malaria sand this is

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really cool in our store

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mantle even included some pictures and

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drawings that malarious made when they

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were conceiving of the alien so you can

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see these drawings where he's pointing

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out we need to make this look like this

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we need to make this look like that just

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so he could prove that you know this

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came from our own imagination this did

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not come from any alleged to real photos

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from 1947 and I think he makes a great

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case I think that for me you know the

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autopsy thing was already put to bed but

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I think the case for the autopsy being

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complete hoax is very strong especially

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when the people involved are claiming

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that also and he even talks about how he

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could have gone on with Santilli and

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they could have made more money together

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if they would have continued to call it

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real but they didn't I think that that's

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that's telling yes a couple other short

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things

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wait a minute before we go there I just

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want to say we got Jordan Bonaparte who

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I did this show at shag harbour with

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he's in that room and he says hi and he

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says you have some damn nice hair oh

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thank you yeah nice to care I I'm pretty

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jealous not too much really look how

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great it is it gets more and more white

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all the time and I I'm not I just like

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well that's very nice to hear because my

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hair does whatever it wants and luckily

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I'm lucky right now that it's wanting to

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look nice yeah but a couple other things

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stories that I add that are pretty cool

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I think that have been in the news well

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I don't know with this first one

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it is the Roswell slides the infamous

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Roswell slides which you and I have

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talked at length about which were of

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course a couple years ago and these

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slides of a mummy that Haim a moose on

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Believe It or Not tried to purport were

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alien but he wasn't alone you know he

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put on this event Richard Dolan was

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there and was kind of giving him the

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benefit of the doubt but the main

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researchers were Don Schmidt and Tom

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Kerry and they didn't do very good

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research because the day after they

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released a full-on photo full resolution

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photo people found out that there's a

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placard in there that said this is a

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just a mummy

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so Jaime of course it's denying that

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it's a mummy he still says it's an alien

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which is absolutely ridiculous because

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we know all about this mummy where it

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comes from the whole history and

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everything at this point but in this

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story it was written by the Guardian

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which is another UK paper but this is

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not a tabloid this is a you know

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probably the most respected paper they

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have over there but for some reason they

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decided to write on this whole escapade

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they took it from the perspective mostly

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of the people who were involved like

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Adam do someone I had talked to who was

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representing the owner of the film and

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then Tom and Dawn and Tom and Don admit

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we wanted to believe too badly and we

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overlooked some information we shouldn't

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have but Tom and Don are saying Adam do

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in the film owners however did trick us

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they didn't give us all the information

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Adam do is saying well no we did give

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him the information we did feel they

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were kind of taking it a little far but

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we didn't know we're just going with the

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flow to see what would happen and and

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and you know I got that sentiment when I

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had talked to him I think he was not he

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was pretty committed to it being

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something strange because they thought

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it was when they looked at it that's why

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they sought help from from experts

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quote-unquote but you know it just went

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bad so this story is really interesting

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it tells a it tells the whole story a

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couple different things that are added

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to it but one good thing even Don

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Schmidt said was that the media had not

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caught on on this whole this whole thing

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and so they were happy that it didn't

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become a big media thing and then of

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course eventually two years later now

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the Guardian has written about it that

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doesn't seem to have really caught on

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much though it's good yeah which is

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because it just needs to go away right

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and then finally the Atlantic this is a

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cool story - speaking of hi mate taking

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mummies and calling them aliens while

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Gaia which unfortunately is not very

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careful with their research in fact I

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think their research is awful it's

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almost like they like to get hoaxes and

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call them real which is unfortunate but

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and Jaime does that as well so I guess

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they make a good team but they're trying

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to purport that these mummy

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found in the desert out in like Chile

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are aliens well no they're not and as we

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know this keeps happening people keep

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bringing forth these these bodies and

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then purporting them to be alien and

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they turn out not to be because the that

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desert just the bodies are mummified and

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they stay in a in a you know more intact

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state longer than other places well the

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Atlantic wrote a big long story about

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this titled the racism behind alien

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mummy hoaxes of which it is a genre I

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mean now that's a thing I think after

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we've had so many of them and we'll

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continue to have more of these alien

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mummy hoaxes going on the Atlanta wrote

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a story about it and just about how the

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locals are upset that you know people

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keep digging up their ancestors and

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calling them aliens which I could see

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how that would be offensive yeah yeah

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I'm really glad they wrote that story

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and hopefully that I will stop it's not

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right it's not right man yeah yeah well

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is that all you got this week which all

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got a bit actually yeah it was I know

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your link is that all that's quite a bit

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man all right hey thanks so much I

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appreciate it

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alright thank you have fun with your

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interview Caroline's a lot of fun I had

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fun talking with her before and of

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course all these stories can be found at

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open mindset TV excellent all right

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thank you very much see you next with

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alright alright so our guest coming up

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and I may have just I think I just hung

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up on her yeah I did

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alright so our guests coming up is

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Caroline

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Corey and she is a filmmaker futurist

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international speaker and a visionary

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author of best-selling books on

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consciousness and quantum healing and a

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very interesting woman and really happy

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to have her on board hi Caroline welcome

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to the show hi Martin thanks for having

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me yes

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make sure you turn your camera on if you

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would alright so there you are

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Hey hi everyone and so anyway thank you

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for joining us and so can you give the

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audience the listening audience your

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background if you would please yeah it's

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funny you know I was listening to you

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chatting with Alejandro and my

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background is so different it's like I

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have I I had nothing to do almost with

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the whole UFO ufology if you will so my

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background is with interaction with the

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beings so that's how it started out for

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me I was five years old and that's the

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first time that I came in contact with

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beings they just showed up and we

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started talking and and so so that's

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that with my background in the sense

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that it was a it was a direct and real

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experience

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it wasn't did I see something in the sky

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or not you know and so this experience

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was so real I remember everything about

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it we were communicating telepathically

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I remember how that happened who the

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beings were and but what happened was

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since that time I started questioning

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how did it happen how did they get here

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and so because of that I started to get

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into consciousness and the mechanics of

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the universe and that sort of thing so

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that's the reason why I ended up you

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know developing methodology for

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consciousness and healing and that sort

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of stuff so that's kind of my background

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in a nutshell yeah so would you say

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basically that you would consider

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yourself an experiencer or had you had

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what people are calling up an abduction

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no it wasn't an abduction because I was

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never taken by force on us

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like that so I was an experience

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you call an experience here someone

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who's been on the ship or abducted then

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I'm not an experienced here

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but if an experienced is someone who

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came in contact with any non-human

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entity then I am an experienced er so it

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depends how you define it does that make

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sense yes sure

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now did you talk about this what was

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happening to say your friends or your

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family or anything or anyone

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yeah I actually didn't it was very

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spontaneous I was very young when the

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first when it happened and like I said

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it was just kind of natural for me but I

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was more into internalizing the process

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like what just happened and how could

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that happen and so I never really talked

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about it I kept it to myself and that's

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probably a good thing because I think if

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I start talking about it that people

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would be like parents would be saying

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that's not real don't go there you know

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what I mean so so I didn't really share

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too much uh-huh and so how did how would

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you say this well you basically already

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told us but what are some other ways

542
00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:36,640
that this changed your life

543
00:23:41,650 --> 00:23:39,860
well I mean this has been my life like

544
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:41,660
throughout my life I've been

545
00:23:47,140 --> 00:23:44,330
communicating with different beings and

546
00:23:50,890 --> 00:23:47,150
different consciousness and so this has

547
00:23:54,550 --> 00:23:50,900
been my life so you know I want to say

548
00:23:57,370 --> 00:23:54,560
that it didn't really I didn't realize

549
00:24:01,870 --> 00:23:57,380
that it was changing my life it was just

550
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:01,880
kind of shaping my life in a way that

551
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:05,510
kept me going into wanting to understand

552
00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:07,730
how it all worked

553
00:24:14,110 --> 00:24:10,670
who the beings were how many different

554
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:14,120
types of beings were there is everybody

555
00:24:18,550 --> 00:24:15,890
seeing what I was seeing that sort of

556
00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:18,560
stuff so it kind of shaped my life in a

557
00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:22,550
certain way and I guess I'm gonna ask

558
00:24:27,580 --> 00:24:25,520
you how long did it take before you

559
00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:27,590
actually talked to someone that had a

560
00:24:32,850 --> 00:24:29,460
similar experience

561
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:32,860
so that was much much much later when I

562
00:24:39,780 --> 00:24:36,310
I mean like when I was an adult and I

563
00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:39,790
realized that this was not so common or

564
00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:41,320
at least people do not want to talk

565
00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:45,460
about it so for me it was normal so I

566
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:48,670
kind of it took me a long time and and

567
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:51,610
by the time I started teaching and

568
00:24:58,590 --> 00:24:54,010
speaking about it and I wrote books of

569
00:25:01,410 --> 00:24:58,600
course then it was more recent actually

570
00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:01,420
that people were you know kind of

571
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:02,950
sharing their experiences they were

572
00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:05,650
telling me what was going on with them

573
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:10,150
and so then I started to kind of put it

574
00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:12,730
in perspective okay these guys are

575
00:25:17,310 --> 00:25:14,740
seeing grays and reptilians and stuff

576
00:25:20,730 --> 00:25:17,320
but that's not what I was seeing so how

577
00:25:22,650 --> 00:25:20,740
does that all work and and how are they

578
00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:22,660
all kind of all connected you know in

579
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:25,600
the universe and who comes here to do

580
00:25:33,540 --> 00:25:29,440
what so so by people sharing their

581
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:33,550
experiences with me I kind of put it all

582
00:25:39,630 --> 00:25:36,910
together if you will and I started to

583
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:39,640
then talk about my experiences because I

584
00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:42,010
realized they were quite unique and it

585
00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:45,400
was adding more information to what was

586
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:48,700
already out there now where did you grow

587
00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:52,000
up I when I was very young I grew up in

588
00:25:56,730 --> 00:25:53,860
France but really I spend most of my

589
00:26:00,920 --> 00:25:56,740
life yeah in the US but I also traveled

590
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:00,930
a lot I lived a lot in in in Japan and

591
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:03,910
just a little bit all over but most of

592
00:26:13,020 --> 00:26:07,530
my life of course in the u.s. in Florida

593
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,030
so I'll the reason I asked besides I I

594
00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:15,760
could detect us little tiny tiny nice

595
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:18,430
accent but the reason I asked basically

596
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:22,840
is because it seems like the u.s. is has

597
00:26:27,570 --> 00:26:26,080
a concentration of you know people

598
00:26:30,150 --> 00:26:27,580
claiming they're having some type of

599
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:30,160
experience and I don't know why that is

600
00:26:33,570 --> 00:26:31,930
but it just seems like you know I talked

601
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:33,580
to people all over the world as far as

602
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:36,490
this show goes and it seems like there's

603
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:37,930
a lot more going on here

604
00:26:42,540 --> 00:26:39,730
not saying that things don't happen

605
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:42,550
elsewhere but at least people talk about

606
00:26:46,380 --> 00:26:42,970
it

607
00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:46,390
yeah I said yeah that's what that's what

608
00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:48,580
I was gonna say is that I don't know if

609
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,950
it only happens here but I think more

610
00:26:56,580 --> 00:26:53,440
people talk about it here you know

611
00:26:59,880 --> 00:26:56,590
because I guess it's more open and it's

612
00:27:01,680 --> 00:26:59,890
okay and there's more a lot more

613
00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:01,690
restrictions I think in different

614
00:27:06,060 --> 00:27:04,030
cultures and countries but it doesn't

615
00:27:08,490 --> 00:27:06,070
mean it doesn't happen for sure

616
00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:08,500
I mean I've have you seen that were able

617
00:27:12,270 --> 00:27:10,420
to watch some of the film yes I did

618
00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:12,280
watch it and I do want to talk quite a

619
00:27:19,530 --> 00:27:17,470
bit about that as we go along but so in

620
00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:19,540
it was really very very well done

621
00:27:25,980 --> 00:27:22,830
by the way thank you thanks so much yeah

622
00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:25,990
so when you were young someone wanted to

623
00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:27,910
know in the chat room they wanted to

624
00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:30,070
know more details about what you

625
00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:35,980
actually you know experienced so what

626
00:27:40,650 --> 00:27:38,740
happened was I was I was 5 years old and

627
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:40,660
I was just hanging out there I was in

628
00:27:44,910 --> 00:27:42,490
the living room with you know my parents

629
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:44,920
it was actually Christmas Eve which was

630
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:49,360
kind of interesting and so so everybody

631
00:27:54,390 --> 00:27:51,430
was busy with like Christmas trees or

632
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:54,400
whatever and all of a sudden I see this

633
00:28:00,090 --> 00:27:57,820
kind of ball of energy it was just like

634
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:00,100
a ball of light and it was standing

635
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:02,770
right next to me so I looked around and

636
00:28:09,270 --> 00:28:05,170
I was like anybody ask anybody else can

637
00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:09,280
see that you know and and of course

638
00:28:14,850 --> 00:28:12,160
nobody was paying attention so right

639
00:28:17,610 --> 00:28:14,860
away the converse telepathic

640
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:17,620
communication started to happen so I

641
00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:19,930
could hear what they were saying super

642
00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:23,950
clear and and I could also see because I

643
00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:26,200
could see subtle energy I mean obviously

644
00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:28,990
I didn't know at age 5 what subtle

645
00:28:33,870 --> 00:28:31,900
energy was but it just kind of

646
00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:33,880
spontaneously happened I could see like

647
00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:36,280
kind of the fabric of space if you will

648
00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:39,070
between me and this consciousness kind

649
00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:41,860
of merge and I could see how the

650
00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:44,350
information was traveling from them into

651
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:47,920
my brain and vice versa so so that's

652
00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:50,320
kind of how it started and then they

653
00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:52,180
said we are now communicating

654
00:28:58,140 --> 00:28:55,030
telepathically and

655
00:29:02,280 --> 00:28:58,150
they said the way you do this is you're

656
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:02,290
actually condense an entire concept like

657
00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:04,450
you crunch it together and then they

658
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:07,480
showed me like some sort of symbols so

659
00:29:11,670 --> 00:29:09,250
instead of speaking

660
00:29:15,930 --> 00:29:11,680
you know like for hours and hours you

661
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:15,940
just kind of get as transfer a symbol

662
00:29:21,630 --> 00:29:19,090
and that symbol equals a whole

663
00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:21,640
conversation it's like a zip drive you

664
00:29:27,030 --> 00:29:24,820
know so yeah well that's interesting

665
00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:27,040
I've talked to a number of people that

666
00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:29,500
have claimed that they've had some type

667
00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:32,350
of communication and so I've asked them

668
00:29:39,090 --> 00:29:36,550
about language you know I think recently

669
00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:39,100
I had a guest on and I said what

670
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,230
language did it speak in or what what

671
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:43,360
language did you hear it in and it's

672
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:46,090
always their home language but if it's

673
00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:48,100
coming you know if it's the

674
00:29:55,290 --> 00:29:52,390
one-size-fits-all and code or whatever

675
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:55,300
it is you're talking about in your film

676
00:29:58,350 --> 00:29:56,710
I think you said that it's something

677
00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:58,360
that's activated within the brain that

678
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:01,840
can communicate yeah so what happens is

679
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:04,570
that this zip drive so to speak is a

680
00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:06,970
universal language it's it's kind of

681
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:11,500
like a it's like the human brain is

682
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:14,080
trained to learn a human language so

683
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:15,910
when you're a kid your parents are

684
00:30:19,470 --> 00:30:17,440
speaking to you in English so you're

685
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:19,480
learning the English language and you're

686
00:30:23,370 --> 00:30:21,430
storing these words and you're

687
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:23,380
physically in your brain not in your

688
00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:24,130
physical breath

689
00:30:29,250 --> 00:30:26,230
you know and then you are retrieving

690
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:29,260
what you've learned to speak so it's

691
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:31,810
kind of like you're learning the

692
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:34,690
vocabulary and everything in your human

693
00:30:39,150 --> 00:30:37,330
brain but then you are a consciousness

694
00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:39,160
you are a universal consciousness you

695
00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:42,670
didn't come in this physical body from

696
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:45,340
the beginning you are a universal kind

697
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:47,110
of you're connected to the universal

698
00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:50,710
fabric and that connection is all

699
00:30:57,930 --> 00:30:54,270
consciousness and there is spontaneous

700
00:31:01,200 --> 00:30:57,940
communication and so these happens in

701
00:31:03,420 --> 00:31:01,210
the form of codes it's literally like a

702
00:31:07,170 --> 00:31:03,430
code and then when you download this

703
00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:07,180
code it opens into your own computer

704
00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:08,920
system if you will in

705
00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:11,080
the language that you understand so it's

706
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:12,670
not like they're speaking English or

707
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:14,170
they're speaking French doesn't work

708
00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:16,810
this way you know what I mean right

709
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:18,990
I actually it's this common denominator

710
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:24,850
is a coded language and and your brain

711
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:27,430
is the one that's translating it into

712
00:31:33,540 --> 00:31:30,640
what you understand I think it's in two

713
00:31:35,850 --> 00:31:33,550
weeks from now I have Randy Nickerson

714
00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:35,860
who I've become friends with over the

715
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:40,270
years he is doing a film on the Ariel

716
00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:42,310
school incident I don't know if you're

717
00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:44,830
familiar with that but there were

718
00:31:50,130 --> 00:31:47,740
witnesses and there were there were

719
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:50,140
school kids at the time in South Africa

720
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:54,250
and they are talked about communication

721
00:32:01,530 --> 00:31:59,050
and a lot of them were images they saw

722
00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:01,540
images of possible destruction of the

723
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:05,590
earth and but anyway the short story is

724
00:32:11,250 --> 00:32:09,010
that the one of the witnesses is going

725
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:11,260
to be on this show and just two weeks

726
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:14,080
along with them and I am going to ask

727
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:17,200
what type of communication if any did

728
00:32:22,350 --> 00:32:19,180
that particular witness feel as though

729
00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:22,360
they had yeah and also and actually this

730
00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:26,430
is where sometimes things get

731
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:30,280
misinterpreted because sometimes that

732
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:33,760
coded language it comes in in images as

733
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:37,510
well and so this is where the human

734
00:32:44,730 --> 00:32:40,930
brain kicks in and starts to interpret

735
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:44,740
those images and depending on what the

736
00:32:48,750 --> 00:32:47,440
person like their preconceived ideas or

737
00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:48,760
fears or what-have-you

738
00:32:54,930 --> 00:32:51,430
this is where the mix-up starts to

739
00:32:57,780 --> 00:32:54,940
happen you know and where you know you

740
00:33:00,360 --> 00:32:57,790
are receiving the download but then your

741
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:00,370
human is also mixing in stuff that

742
00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:01,510
wasn't there

743
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:04,180
that's the problem you know what I mean

744
00:33:08,370 --> 00:33:06,130
there's there's different people now

745
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:08,380
that have been in the field a long time

746
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:10,990
that have been talking about downloads

747
00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:13,330
for instance grant Cameron which he used

748
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:15,220
to just talk about you know the

749
00:33:21,690 --> 00:33:18,340
presidents in regards to UFOs he's

750
00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:21,700
talking about this lately and David

751
00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:22,630
Jacobs who I know

752
00:33:28,830 --> 00:33:26,260
in your film you know speaks about it so

753
00:33:31,620 --> 00:33:28,840
let's talk a little bit about your film

754
00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:31,630
in general you have a lot of science

755
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:34,150
people and person that I've been in

756
00:33:38,490 --> 00:33:35,710
touch with before I'm trying to remember

757
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:38,500
from Stanford that does DNA Who am I

758
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:39,190
thinking of

759
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:43,210
Glenn Rhine what is it Glenn Rhine know

760
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:46,870
someone the DNA the DNA Oh Gary Gary

761
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:49,330
Nolan Nolan Nolan that's it yeah great

762
00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:52,750
guy okay yeah he actually he's the one

763
00:33:59,760 --> 00:33:55,990
that did this whole DNA sequencing on

764
00:34:02,160 --> 00:33:59,770
that skeleton actually so it was

765
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:02,170
interesting at least we knew he was open

766
00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:04,570
to you know getting involved in these

767
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:07,030
sort of topics so we spoke to him about

768
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:09,550
this film so what I wanted to do like I

769
00:34:12,990 --> 00:34:09,850
said

770
00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:13,000
so for me my background was not just

771
00:34:20,669 --> 00:34:16,149
seeing UFOs in the sky because I had

772
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:20,679
very very direct contact experiences

773
00:34:25,950 --> 00:34:23,770
with beings and also not just that kind

774
00:34:30,990 --> 00:34:25,960
of understanding the mechanics of all of

775
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:31,000
it I wanted to bring the science of that

776
00:34:36,899 --> 00:34:34,810
that mechanics to the world you know so

777
00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:36,909
that's that's the reason why I want to

778
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:38,950
change your view scientist in the film

779
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:42,480
he's one of them but I also wanted to

780
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:46,169
interview I mean in the film you have

781
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:50,409
astrophysicists you have quantum

782
00:34:56,940 --> 00:34:53,530
biologists so I wanted to approach this

783
00:35:00,440 --> 00:34:56,950
approach it from different angles all

784
00:35:03,570 --> 00:35:00,450
from a scientific perspective to bring

785
00:35:06,510 --> 00:35:03,580
validation to this whole contact

786
00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:06,520
phenomenon I mean I think you know how

787
00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:11,260
it is seen from the outside it's not

788
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,230
taken seriously I think unfortunately it

789
00:35:18,330 --> 00:35:16,480
is a little bit because of what you and

790
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:18,340
Alejandro were discussing you know some

791
00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:20,830
people are making things up and you know

792
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:23,740
mixing it with the real deal so that's

793
00:35:30,350 --> 00:35:26,200
what that's what happens and so I wanted

794
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:30,360
to kind of stick to what I really really

795
00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:33,760
know is real because it happened to me

796
00:35:39,870 --> 00:35:36,220
and so many other people

797
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:39,880
and just bring the that science to to

798
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:42,010
show it and I think I did in the film

799
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:45,520
because we ended up doing on-camera

800
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,280
experiments and to show how it was

801
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:54,160
actually possible to come in contact

802
00:36:00,030 --> 00:35:58,450
with a non non-physical entity and I

803
00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:00,040
don't know did you did you get to that

804
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:01,230
part in the film

805
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:05,290
right so so what do you do you think you

806
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,290
know I think I try to be open-minded I

807
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:10,480
try to be skeptical at the same time and

808
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:14,290
sure and I try to be open-minded because

809
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:19,119
I understand that as I'm going along I

810
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:21,040
haven't really heard any concrete

811
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:23,590
answers to what is happening and there's

812
00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:26,800
so much more than just the UFO field

813
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:29,080
which I focus on in this show basically

814
00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:31,690
but there's so many more things that are

815
00:36:37,410 --> 00:36:35,740
unexplainable and you know I do believe

816
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:37,420
that there is a type of like energy

817
00:36:46,650 --> 00:36:43,650
connection and between us all and and

818
00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:46,660
you know I mean it's it fascinates me

819
00:36:50,490 --> 00:36:49,030
that whole topic and there's definitely

820
00:36:53,490 --> 00:36:50,500
sorry go ahead

821
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:53,500
no and then also I know that you talked

822
00:36:58,380 --> 00:36:55,810
about there's all kinds of theories and

823
00:37:01,920 --> 00:36:58,390
thoughts about how UFOs get here for

824
00:37:04,170 --> 00:37:01,930
instance right and so I'm always hoping

825
00:37:06,450 --> 00:37:04,180
to hear I've heard you talk about and

826
00:37:09,150 --> 00:37:06,460
I'm always hoping to hear different

827
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:09,160
sides so you're welcome to talk about

828
00:37:14,099 --> 00:37:12,190
that as well yeah so so that was another

829
00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:14,109
thing like I said one of the questions I

830
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:16,150
had was well how did these beings get

831
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:18,550
here the they just like show up and it

832
00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:21,430
was you know one of the most intriguing

833
00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:24,430
questions as I was talking to them I was

834
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:27,430
like you know how did that happen and

835
00:37:33,060 --> 00:37:30,400
how are they here physically or am I is

836
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:33,070
this a projection or how does that work

837
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:37,510
and so you know with time I discovered

838
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:40,450
and I also could perceive because I

839
00:37:46,349 --> 00:37:42,490
could perceive the subtle energy like I

840
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:46,359
said I could see that there is it's not

841
00:37:49,890 --> 00:37:49,359
just a kind of an invisible and abstract

842
00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:49,900
and

843
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:53,950
linked the actual fabric of space itself

844
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,370
so the space between you and me even if

845
00:38:02,970 --> 00:37:59,680
you're physically here in the room is

846
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:02,980
not obviously empty scientists have been

847
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:07,050
saying that but it's actually made of

848
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:10,930
specific geometric patterns so it's kind

849
00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:12,790
of like a cobweb it's very very

850
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:14,950
interesting and but it's very specific

851
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:19,330
and so this kind of geometric pattern

852
00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:23,710
this hologram literally connects you and

853
00:38:28,110 --> 00:38:26,590
me and everybody else in the room and of

854
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:28,120
course it doesn't stop there it

855
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:30,550
continues around the planet and in the

856
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:33,850
whole cosmos and so that that specific

857
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:38,170
web it allows I mean it's not just one

858
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:40,330
web it's one web within a web within a

859
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:42,790
web it's a bit more complex but it's

860
00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:45,760
made in such a way that certain

861
00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:49,030
intersections of this web are what we

862
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:52,180
call black holes so there's big black

863
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:54,070
holes and there's smaller black holes

864
00:38:59,820 --> 00:38:56,320
and then mini black holes and what

865
00:39:02,670 --> 00:38:59,830
happens is that when you are at a black

866
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:02,680
hole point you are pretty much in

867
00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:05,110
resonance with all of the black holes

868
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:08,230
within this structure this is again laws

869
00:39:14,130 --> 00:39:11,410
of physics and quantum mechanics but

870
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:14,140
these are even just the law of resonance

871
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:16,660
which is not so I mean this is very much

872
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:18,930
validated already and it's out there

873
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:22,450
because you are at a specific point in

874
00:39:26,190 --> 00:39:24,880
space that is kind of equivalent or

875
00:39:28,050 --> 00:39:26,200
similar to another

876
00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:28,060
it's whatever information is in one

877
00:39:34,980 --> 00:39:31,630
place is also in the other and so so you

878
00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:34,990
could be somewhere at it at a black hole

879
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:37,960
or at this intersection point that I

880
00:39:43,830 --> 00:39:41,410
call within this cosmic web and if you

881
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:43,840
are a one particular black hole you are

882
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:46,810
pretty much at all the black hole all at

883
00:39:57,300 --> 00:39:51,190
once so if I'm found somewhere let's say

884
00:39:59,550 --> 00:39:57,310
on Mars or on a bigger cosmic level and

885
00:40:03,460 --> 00:39:59,560
there's this perfectly organized web

886
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:03,470
structure and I am at a particular

887
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:06,560
intersection within this cosmic web at

888
00:40:11,950 --> 00:40:08,450
this particular black hole

889
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:11,960
I can instantaneously appear at another

890
00:40:17,470 --> 00:40:14,570
black hole here on the earth so it's not

891
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:17,480
propulsion you're not kind of like you

892
00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:21,650
know you know breaking through the the

893
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:23,750
barrier of sounds and all that stuff

894
00:40:29,070 --> 00:40:26,090
it's instantaneous and that's how it

895
00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:29,080
works and it makes a lot of sense anyway

896
00:40:35,770 --> 00:40:31,700
then the science that's out there do you

897
00:40:37,690 --> 00:40:35,780
agree I think it's interesting it's hard

898
00:40:41,260 --> 00:40:37,700
for me to agree to any of it because oh

899
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:41,270
yeah without really you know knowing but

900
00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:44,450
it's it's an interesting concept and one

901
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,220
of the questions I thought was it hard

902
00:40:52,570 --> 00:40:48,800
for you to get people of science

903
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:52,580
involved in a movie like this actually I

904
00:40:59,290 --> 00:40:55,930
was looking for of course scientists who

905
00:41:01,120 --> 00:40:59,300
have a certain credibility and caliber I

906
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:01,130
want to say because there are a lot of

907
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:02,810
scientists out there who are doing all

908
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:05,330
sorts of stuff in their garage not to

909
00:41:08,530 --> 00:41:06,650
diminish what they're doing because

910
00:41:10,420 --> 00:41:08,540
that's how you discover amazing things

911
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:10,430
too but what I'm saying is for the

912
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:12,800
purpose of this film because I was

913
00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:15,770
trying to bring credibility I you know I

914
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:19,300
wanted to to get those those guys and

915
00:41:25,870 --> 00:41:22,450
surprisingly I I was able to you know I

916
00:41:28,740 --> 00:41:25,880
the mono the topside - and one of the

917
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:28,750
top scientists a harvard-smithsonian

918
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:30,890
astrophysicist I mean how much more

919
00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:33,350
credibility do you need right was

920
00:41:38,410 --> 00:41:35,660
amazing was he the one that was talking

921
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:38,420
about the black hole yes can you talk a

922
00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:39,770
little bit about that there's questions

923
00:41:44,410 --> 00:41:42,140
in the chat room about that yeah and so

924
00:41:48,190 --> 00:41:44,420
he's the one who was able to validate

925
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:48,200
what I just mentioned to you and he he's

926
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:52,160
one of the first people who actually not

927
00:41:58,690 --> 00:41:54,770
not the FIR but more recently I want to

928
00:42:02,350 --> 00:41:58,700
say that was it that was that showed

929
00:42:08,110 --> 00:42:02,360
that black holes had a strong magnetic

930
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:08,120
field and so so become and and so that's

931
00:42:13,930 --> 00:42:09,920
his where in fact he's a he's a black

932
00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:13,940
hole expert so to speak in astrophysics

933
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:16,820
and so so what he's done is

934
00:42:22,810 --> 00:42:19,520
he was able to demonstrate that this

935
00:42:26,530 --> 00:42:22,820
magnetism on the surface of the black

936
00:42:29,950 --> 00:42:26,540
hole is what allows information to be

937
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:29,960
stored to be trapped within the fabric

938
00:42:34,410 --> 00:42:31,730
of space so everything that we're doing

939
00:42:38,140 --> 00:42:34,420
right now so when we are speaking we are

940
00:42:43,390 --> 00:42:38,150
projecting ideas or or whatever we are

941
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,400
actually doing is being stored literally

942
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:45,920
within the fabric of space and this

943
00:42:52,420 --> 00:42:49,760
magnetism you know is the one that

944
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:52,430
allows all of the different black holes

945
00:42:56,890 --> 00:42:54,950
to communicate with each other and you

946
00:42:59,710 --> 00:42:56,900
know so the information travels through

947
00:43:02,680 --> 00:42:59,720
quantum waves from one black hole to

948
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:02,690
another instantaneously because of this

949
00:43:07,690 --> 00:43:05,930
these magnetic the magnetic force of the

950
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:07,700
black holes so it's not like you have a

951
00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:09,920
magnet here a magnet here magnet there

952
00:43:16,420 --> 00:43:13,000
and all of the magnets are kind of

953
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:16,430
sharing the same information these you

954
00:43:20,860 --> 00:43:18,230
have the quantum waves going through the

955
00:43:23,410 --> 00:43:20,870
magnets all at once you see what I mean

956
00:43:25,450 --> 00:43:23,420
that's how he explained it can you

957
00:43:28,090 --> 00:43:25,460
repeat someone wanted to know in the

958
00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:28,100
chatroom can you repeat the name of the

959
00:43:33,220 --> 00:43:30,260
astrophysicist from Harvard what was his

960
00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:33,230
name yeah dr. Rudi shield oh that's

961
00:43:39,580 --> 00:43:35,630
right yes yeah yes I know I know that

962
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:39,590
name actually yes and so yeah so he was

963
00:43:47,740 --> 00:43:42,590
able to you know to demonstrate how the

964
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:47,750
waves the quantum waves that are you

965
00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:51,770
know propagating through space are you

966
00:43:56,860 --> 00:43:53,390
know are trapping this information are

967
00:44:00,640 --> 00:43:56,870
storing information and then you can

968
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:00,650
literally use this magnetized property

969
00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:03,890
of the black holes to kind of be

970
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:06,100
everywhere at once and transport

971
00:44:12,090 --> 00:44:08,690
yourself from one point to another

972
00:44:17,170 --> 00:44:12,100
thanks to this this black hole magnetism

973
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:17,180
so yeah that's something so back to the

974
00:44:22,540 --> 00:44:20,450
question you wanted to get people of a

975
00:44:24,490 --> 00:44:22,550
certain magnitude was it difficult to

976
00:44:28,130 --> 00:44:24,500
get people to commit to this type of

977
00:44:31,130 --> 00:44:28,140
movie yes okay so so he was one of my

978
00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:31,140
first one that I really wanted to have

979
00:44:36,350 --> 00:44:33,300
because he was his specialty was black

980
00:44:39,260 --> 00:44:36,360
holes and me I like I mentioned my

981
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:39,270
background was more consciousness than

982
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:40,530
understanding the mechanics of

983
00:44:47,150 --> 00:44:43,710
consciousness but at a very young age I

984
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:47,160
also understood that the role of black

985
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:50,460
holes is not just so that stars go in

986
00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:53,280
and explode and disappear

987
00:45:00,170 --> 00:44:57,000
black holes are also kind of a central

988
00:45:03,260 --> 00:45:00,180
point well I mean one of the things is

989
00:45:06,170 --> 00:45:03,270
that they hold matter together and and

990
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:06,180
matter and the physical universe starts

991
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:08,280
with a black hole through a black hole

992
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:12,000
so anyway long story short I knew that

993
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:15,450
the role of the black holes was was

994
00:45:20,530 --> 00:45:18,720
extremely important for consciousness

995
00:45:23,090 --> 00:45:20,540
understanding consciousness but also

996
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:23,100
communication teleportation I mean I

997
00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:26,640
understood that role the role they had

998
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:29,340
so I wanted an astrophysicist who really

999
00:45:34,510 --> 00:45:31,440
worked on that and so I had my eye on

1000
00:45:37,730 --> 00:45:34,520
him I couldn't reach him for a long time

1001
00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:37,740
and so I don't know what he was doing

1002
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:40,680
and somebody introduced me to him and

1003
00:45:45,290 --> 00:45:42,690
and then I didn't hear for like six

1004
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:45,300
months and then all of a sudden I sent

1005
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:47,310
him an email I said hey this is what I'm

1006
00:45:52,430 --> 00:45:49,170
doing this my background and he wrote me

1007
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:52,440
right back he said I'm an Wow and so

1008
00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:55,530
yeah so that was him Gary Nolan same

1009
00:46:00,620 --> 00:45:58,200
thing we told him what we were doing and

1010
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:00,630
he said fine

1011
00:46:05,810 --> 00:46:03,780
Glen Ryan who did the experiment on the

1012
00:46:09,290 --> 00:46:05,820
human DNA which we probably should talk

1013
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:09,300
about a little bit yeah yeah he he when

1014
00:46:14,210 --> 00:46:12,090
I told him what I was doing also it was

1015
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:14,220
a no-brainer right away he sent me all

1016
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:16,170
of the papers he had written what was

1017
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:18,450
relevant we discussed what kind of

1018
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:20,310
experiments we could do together

1019
00:46:26,330 --> 00:46:24,240
and he was in so actually it wasn't that

1020
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:26,340
difficult now that I think of it but

1021
00:46:31,070 --> 00:46:28,710
also probably because I was looking for

1022
00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:31,080
the right type of scientists who were

1023
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:33,270
open to this sort of information

1024
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:36,450
otherwise you know yeah yeah it can be

1025
00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:38,490
tough now you just said you study

1026
00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:41,460
consciousness and for

1027
00:46:47,329 --> 00:46:43,260
what I understand that there's never

1028
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:47,339
been that's a real debatable topic isn't

1029
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:50,400
it yeah yeah unfortunately which I'm

1030
00:46:54,109 --> 00:46:51,690
really surprised about because

1031
00:46:59,089 --> 00:46:54,119
everything is about consciousness and

1032
00:47:02,089 --> 00:46:59,099
like I said for me it was experiential

1033
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:02,099
it wasn't somebody told me this it's

1034
00:47:07,849 --> 00:47:04,770
this way or that way it just happened

1035
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:07,859
and so you know at the age of five and

1036
00:47:14,180 --> 00:47:10,770
at the time there's no internet there's

1037
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:14,190
no you know like you don't go and kind

1038
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:18,690
of familiarize yourself with the topic

1039
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:21,690
and get kind of gather other people's

1040
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,680
input

1041
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,200
you're just you're you're just a child

1042
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:27,359
you know what I mean and then for this

1043
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:29,130
information to just happen so

1044
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:31,770
organically and for you to open yourself

1045
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:33,510
up to the mechanics of the entire

1046
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:36,810
universe I mean there's a lot more that

1047
00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:39,839
science hasn't caught up with I mean you

1048
00:47:46,490 --> 00:47:41,790
know and it's all about consciousness

1049
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:46,500
you know ya know I think science is a

1050
00:47:51,380 --> 00:47:48,480
more about discovery than anything else

1051
00:47:52,940 --> 00:47:51,390
yeah you know I mean there's so many

1052
00:47:55,460 --> 00:47:52,950
things to discover things are already

1053
00:47:58,849 --> 00:47:55,470
here already happening and it's just

1054
00:48:02,690 --> 00:47:58,859
discovering exactly what it is right and

1055
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:02,700
also they also it's all measurable like

1056
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:04,650
I mean it's about measuring the

1057
00:48:09,230 --> 00:48:06,930
observable where a lot of it is not

1058
00:48:11,450 --> 00:48:09,240
observable you know I mean a lot of it

1059
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:11,460
you know what I mean so there and we

1060
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:13,890
know it's it's there because the sound

1061
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:15,570
waves you don't see but we know they're

1062
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:17,490
there gamma rays you don't see but then

1063
00:48:21,620 --> 00:48:19,260
we I mean well no Gunners you see but

1064
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:21,630
you know what I mean so they know that

1065
00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:23,910
there are frequencies they you cannot

1066
00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:26,580
observe with the naked eye but you can

1067
00:48:32,380 --> 00:48:29,220
measure with certain instrument but

1068
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:32,390
still like the fact that they're not

1069
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:35,130
observable or measurable you know

1070
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,200
through the physical spectrum doesn't

1071
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:39,839
mean they're not there and so why can

1072
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:43,440
there be more that we cannot measure

1073
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:46,050
they cannot see and observe quite yet

1074
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:50,609
you know right I had someone on the show

1075
00:48:54,809 --> 00:48:54,000
that was talking about the brains like

1076
00:48:59,519 --> 00:48:54,819
membranes

1077
00:49:03,359 --> 00:48:59,529
now the multiverse mm-hmm is does that

1078
00:49:05,459 --> 00:49:03,369
come into play anywhere and any of of

1079
00:49:08,699 --> 00:49:05,469
any of your research or looking into

1080
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:08,709
this yeah actually I wrote about this I

1081
00:49:14,099 --> 00:49:11,410
wrote three books and because like I

1082
00:49:15,959 --> 00:49:14,109
said that was my background and so I did

1083
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:15,969
the consciousness work first before

1084
00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:20,079
started making films and so the the

1085
00:49:25,469 --> 00:49:22,630
biggest discovery if you will or what I

1086
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:25,479
was really working on and I realized

1087
00:49:31,409 --> 00:49:29,049
that that's what I was here to do was

1088
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:31,419
understood to understand the the

1089
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:34,140
mechanics of how things work but also

1090
00:49:40,949 --> 00:49:38,410
the bigger context in other words how

1091
00:49:44,009 --> 00:49:40,959
does earth fit within a galaxy within a

1092
00:49:47,669 --> 00:49:44,019
multi within a universe within a

1093
00:49:51,809 --> 00:49:47,679
multiverse within a multi multiverse and

1094
00:49:55,919 --> 00:49:51,819
then so so I was kind of like how should

1095
00:49:59,789 --> 00:49:55,929
I say I was remembering I want to say

1096
00:50:04,739 --> 00:49:59,799
because I also could part of this

1097
00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:04,749
understanding was the the remembrance of

1098
00:50:11,339 --> 00:50:08,140
my own coming here so to speak like how

1099
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:11,349
how did I get here and how does that how

1100
00:50:17,399 --> 00:50:14,319
does that fit into this body and and how

1101
00:50:19,049 --> 00:50:17,409
do I communicate with with you know my

1102
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:19,059
higher consciousness how does all this

1103
00:50:28,019 --> 00:50:24,249
work so with that I'm folding and this

1104
00:50:33,739 --> 00:50:28,029
questioning you know I I was able to

1105
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:33,749
kind of map out if you will a multiverse

1106
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:37,630
structuring patterning so to speak and

1107
00:50:41,969 --> 00:50:40,209
it's all in my book so that was like 15

1108
00:50:44,339 --> 00:50:41,979
years ago so I did that for a while

1109
00:50:47,699 --> 00:50:44,349
people can go and you know read it in

1110
00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:47,709
the books and my classes and stuff okay

1111
00:50:53,339 --> 00:50:50,140
we had some people send in some

1112
00:50:56,579 --> 00:50:53,349
questions on the forum and so I will

1113
00:51:01,289 --> 00:50:56,589
occasionally read one to you this one's

1114
00:51:04,019 --> 00:51:01,299
from Kerry he he asked do you think we

1115
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:04,029
are being interacted with in multiple

1116
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:07,920
ways but are governed by what we can

1117
00:51:13,819 --> 00:51:10,559
Seve by our consciousness and physical

1118
00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:13,829
senses it keeps going here if so do you

1119
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:16,740
think this is ets from another planet or

1120
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:19,650
some form of intelligence that we don't

1121
00:51:25,579 --> 00:51:23,130
understand well it's it's everything so

1122
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,589
so I like this question because it

1123
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:27,119
touches on so many different things

1124
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:30,000
first of all it from the beginning when

1125
00:51:35,809 --> 00:51:33,359
you come in as a human you didn't show

1126
00:51:37,940 --> 00:51:35,819
up in this body and where did this body

1127
00:51:39,620 --> 00:51:37,950
come from and the first place of course

1128
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:39,630
is the mother and the father yeah yeah

1129
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:41,910
but there is the consciousness that

1130
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:45,359
existed prior to this physical form and

1131
00:51:51,319 --> 00:51:47,490
so where did this consciousness come

1132
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:51,329
from so your parents didn't make your

1133
00:51:55,970 --> 00:51:53,250
consciousness there's something bigger

1134
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:55,980
than that so just to simplify it let's

1135
00:52:01,490 --> 00:51:58,640
say that you are pure consciousness

1136
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:01,500
somewhere in the universe let's say you

1137
00:52:08,450 --> 00:52:05,450
came you were kind of initiated or

1138
00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:08,460
created as consciousness let's say at

1139
00:52:13,940 --> 00:52:11,700
the platies okay just simplify it so

1140
00:52:16,190 --> 00:52:13,950
that consciousness exists at the platies

1141
00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:16,200
but then when you are at the Pleiades

1142
00:52:20,299 --> 00:52:18,329
and you say oh look at this planet down

1143
00:52:22,609 --> 00:52:20,309
there sign it earth I think I'm gonna go

1144
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:22,619
and be a human for a while so you bring

1145
00:52:28,609 --> 00:52:25,730
parts of your consciousness and you

1146
00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:28,619
Orien that part of your consciousness is

1147
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:32,760
able to take on a human form so when

1148
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:35,210
your parents make up the the baby shape

1149
00:52:40,579 --> 00:52:37,760
that aspect of your consciousness

1150
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:40,589
occupies you know takes over if you will

1151
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:43,650
that baby shape and part of you becomes

1152
00:52:51,859 --> 00:52:47,280
a human but the original consciousness

1153
00:52:55,370 --> 00:52:51,869
has never cease to exist so so this is

1154
00:52:59,089 --> 00:52:55,380
this is one answer to your question part

1155
00:53:02,359 --> 00:52:59,099
of the communication that never ceases

1156
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:02,369
to exist is between you as a human and

1157
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:05,910
your higher consciousness so that higher

1158
00:53:11,059 --> 00:53:07,490
consciousness which is yourself

1159
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:11,069
somewhere else is has never been this

1160
00:53:16,970 --> 00:53:14,160
connection has never been severed so it

1161
00:53:19,339 --> 00:53:16,980
is continuously guiding you giving you

1162
00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:19,349
information telling you what you're here

1163
00:53:24,170 --> 00:53:21,660
to do reminding you

1164
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:24,180
you know what you're about and so on and

1165
00:53:31,849 --> 00:53:27,450
so forth but the little one that's you

1166
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:31,859
is now bombarded with you know your

1167
00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:35,010
parents things and the and peer pressure

1168
00:53:41,029 --> 00:53:37,260
and what society is telling you to do

1169
00:53:44,420 --> 00:53:41,039
and so on so forth so the the human

1170
00:53:46,579 --> 00:53:44,430
aspect of you is now creating blocks and

1171
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:46,589
fears so when you are receiving

1172
00:53:51,140 --> 00:53:48,270
information from your higher

1173
00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:51,150
consciousness your fears are kicking in

1174
00:53:56,089 --> 00:53:54,180
your confusion is kicking in and you

1175
00:53:58,940 --> 00:53:56,099
think you are separated you think you're

1176
00:54:00,620 --> 00:53:58,950
all alone and you think you're not being

1177
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:00,630
guided and you don't know why you're

1178
00:54:07,220 --> 00:54:03,510
here and so on and so forth so that's so

1179
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,230
this is when you have other entities you

1180
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:08,880
see where there are other beings that

1181
00:54:15,380 --> 00:54:11,490
also exist within this earth plane that

1182
00:54:18,349 --> 00:54:15,390
are now trying to help or distract so

1183
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:18,359
you see how now all of a sudden you have

1184
00:54:22,460 --> 00:54:20,250
your higher consciousness that's

1185
00:54:24,829 --> 00:54:22,470
supposed to be helping but then you're

1186
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:24,839
confused you're you know pushing it away

1187
00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:27,359
you have other beings telling you what

1188
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:29,400
to do but you're not you're you don't

1189
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:31,049
know who's talking to you it's so on and

1190
00:54:36,859 --> 00:54:33,480
so forth so you see how it becomes kind

1191
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:36,869
of confusing so we are influenced by all

1192
00:54:44,049 --> 00:54:41,400
sorts of stuff and being then in

1193
00:54:45,890 --> 00:54:44,059
consciousness all connecting together

1194
00:54:48,349 --> 00:54:45,900
all right well let me ask you this

1195
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:48,359
earlier when we were first talking

1196
00:54:53,029 --> 00:54:51,119
before the show you talked about your

1197
00:54:55,309 --> 00:54:53,039
little Lhasa Apso and I talked about my

1198
00:54:58,039 --> 00:54:55,319
chihuahua I loved yeah the dog lover so

1199
00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:58,049
are you so how do animals that they're

1200
00:55:02,059 --> 00:54:59,490
not they don't have the intelligence

1201
00:55:04,849 --> 00:55:02,069
that we have how do they fit into this

1202
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:04,859
whole thought of what you're talking

1203
00:55:11,539 --> 00:55:09,089
about so for me animals were are created

1204
00:55:15,140 --> 00:55:11,549
usually to support the consciousness of

1205
00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:15,150
a planet so their chemistry and their

1206
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:19,920
electrical system are made to kind of

1207
00:55:24,260 --> 00:55:22,529
recycle a lot of the information that

1208
00:55:28,099 --> 00:55:24,270
the earth needs that's why they're

1209
00:55:29,390 --> 00:55:28,109
usually on four legs because they you

1210
00:55:31,819 --> 00:55:29,400
know bring in the information from the

1211
00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:31,829
earth and out to the earth or if they're

1212
00:55:37,290 --> 00:55:34,270
flying like birds and their work work

1213
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:37,300
with the magnetic field of the planet so

1214
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:41,050
the the the animals are part of the

1215
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:44,250
planetary consciousness part of its

1216
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:46,990
mechanics if you will that's how they

1217
00:55:52,260 --> 00:55:49,390
fit in but of course they can pick up

1218
00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:52,270
human stuff too energetic stuff just

1219
00:55:58,020 --> 00:55:55,150
like you saw in the film what we did

1220
00:56:00,300 --> 00:55:58,030
with the human DNA someone want to know

1221
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:00,310
in the chat room if there is any

1222
00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:03,310
evidence that all of what we're seeing

1223
00:56:08,910 --> 00:56:05,950
is assimilation I've heard of that

1224
00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:08,920
theory yeah yeah you know I thought

1225
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:12,790
about that many many times but there's

1226
00:56:19,470 --> 00:56:15,090
too much evidence that it is not

1227
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:19,480
assimilation because you can change

1228
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:23,920
certain things if it's a simulation you

1229
00:56:29,370 --> 00:56:25,510
would think that certain things could

1230
00:56:32,070 --> 00:56:29,380
not be changed at will you know so I've

1231
00:56:35,630 --> 00:56:32,080
had very strong and very real

1232
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:35,640
experiences where I could change

1233
00:56:43,710 --> 00:56:39,130
literally some things within you know

1234
00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:43,720
the physical reality if you will so if I

1235
00:56:49,350 --> 00:56:47,140
have that much control then how could it

1236
00:56:53,660 --> 00:56:49,360
be assumed you know what I mean so I'm

1237
00:56:57,540 --> 00:56:53,670
kind of overriding the the the program

1238
00:57:00,570 --> 00:56:57,550
you see yeah yeah I get that

1239
00:57:03,330 --> 00:57:00,580
so bill wanted to know he sent this

1240
00:57:05,220 --> 00:57:03,340
question in you have had experiments

1241
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:05,230
performed to demonstrate relationship

1242
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:07,510
between intent or consciousness and

1243
00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:10,570
remotely affecting DNA I do want to talk

1244
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:12,790
about that to investigate the healing

1245
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:15,310
properties of consciousness what

1246
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:18,130
experiments have you done and what were

1247
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:18,880
the results

1248
00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:21,610
did you also do experiments to rule out

1249
00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:24,760
the observed effects when coming from

1250
00:57:30,690 --> 00:57:28,780
something other than intent so that was

1251
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:30,700
part of your film so go ahead and talk

1252
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:33,280
about that if you would yeah exactly so

1253
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:36,400
so what I wanted to do is demonstrate

1254
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:39,730
that it is possible to come in contact

1255
00:57:45,450 --> 00:57:43,930
with a non visible entity and so because

1256
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:45,460
like I said that's what happened to me

1257
00:57:52,499 --> 00:57:47,890
many many times

1258
00:57:54,809 --> 00:57:52,509
so I spoke with the doctor Rhine and I

1259
00:57:57,509 --> 00:57:54,819
said why don't we design an experiment

1260
00:58:00,239 --> 00:57:57,519
where we because there have been many

1261
00:58:04,049 --> 00:58:00,249
experiments and research and articles

1262
00:58:06,450 --> 00:58:04,059
written on people measuring the the

1263
00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:06,460
intent on water I mean so this there's

1264
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:09,190
nothing new there but what we wanted to

1265
00:58:14,279 --> 00:58:12,130
do is because we were talking about et's

1266
00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:14,289
and entities and spirits and stuff like

1267
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,710
that

1268
00:58:18,539 --> 00:58:16,480
I said well instead of just

1269
00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:18,549
demonstrating healing ability and

1270
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:21,190
changing the water structure can we

1271
00:58:26,549 --> 00:58:24,400
bring an actual consciousness of spirit

1272
00:58:28,170 --> 00:58:26,559
entity and I said there's never been

1273
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:28,180
done before I said well that's the point

1274
00:58:33,539 --> 00:58:31,690
let's see what happens and so so we

1275
00:58:35,579 --> 00:58:33,549
designed the experiment you know he's

1276
00:58:39,299 --> 00:58:35,589
working with DNA which was kind of also

1277
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:39,309
very interesting and he has DNA's from

1278
00:58:45,989 --> 00:58:42,970
placenta from female placenta which is

1279
00:58:48,059 --> 00:58:45,999
perfect and so what he would do is he

1280
00:58:50,099 --> 00:58:48,069
would measure it as a contrast science

1281
00:58:52,829 --> 00:58:50,109
experiment you have to measure it over

1282
00:58:55,979 --> 00:58:52,839
and over and over and as a control and

1283
00:58:59,640 --> 00:58:55,989
then do the experiment again ten times

1284
00:59:01,640 --> 00:58:59,650
to make sure it wasn't a fluke so what

1285
00:59:05,099 --> 00:59:01,650
he did is first he measured the

1286
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:05,109
conductivity of the placenta the DNA and

1287
00:59:11,789 --> 00:59:07,690
he also measured the frequencies and

1288
00:59:13,739 --> 00:59:11,799
what I did was I first I we kind of

1289
00:59:16,349 --> 00:59:13,749
looked at it and did nothing you know

1290
00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:16,359
that was a control and then I brought in

1291
00:59:24,479 --> 00:59:21,670
a I invoked a at the time it was an

1292
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:24,489
archangel like a mara Archangel Michael

1293
00:59:33,539 --> 00:59:28,450
and so we we brought in this energy and

1294
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:33,549
exactly at that time the the DNA started

1295
00:59:42,809 --> 00:59:39,130
to register crazy like I mean effect and

1296
00:59:44,339 --> 00:59:42,819
so long story short we did that over and

1297
00:59:46,529 --> 00:59:44,349
over and you know as a scientific

1298
00:59:48,509 --> 00:59:46,539
experiment you do on and off and on and

1299
00:59:52,289 --> 00:59:48,519
off so to make sure it's correlated

1300
00:59:54,479 --> 00:59:52,299
properly and eventually we saw very a

1301
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:54,489
correlation very strong correlation with

1302
01:00:01,300 --> 00:59:58,390
the times that you know we I was

1303
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:01,310
bringing this consciousness

1304
01:00:09,610 --> 01:00:05,770
the DNA and it basically shot up 400%

1305
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:09,620
its conductivity shot up 400% which was

1306
01:00:13,930 --> 01:00:11,930
very it was very very significant that's

1307
01:00:18,340 --> 01:00:13,940
one of the results and we did other ones

1308
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:18,350
yeah I know the the scientists there was

1309
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:19,970
seemed like it was a little bit shocked

1310
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:22,370
about that he was very shocked he was

1311
01:00:27,490 --> 01:00:24,890
like wow and because it was also very

1312
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:27,500
fast I mean I invoked the energy in like

1313
01:00:34,090 --> 01:00:31,970
few seconds it was like yeah so so he

1314
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:34,100
was very very shocked but we also had

1315
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:36,110
another result that was even more

1316
01:00:40,990 --> 01:00:39,530
shocking and I mean I don't want to give

1317
01:00:42,610 --> 01:00:41,000
away the whole film because it's kind of

1318
01:00:45,790 --> 01:00:42,620
fun to discover it as you're watching

1319
01:00:48,850 --> 01:00:45,800
the film but basically we also he also

1320
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:48,860
did another measuring which had to do

1321
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:51,290
with frequency which was interesting as

1322
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:55,040
well and after the contact when we

1323
01:01:00,220 --> 01:00:57,170
brought in this consciousness the

1324
01:01:02,010 --> 01:01:00,230
frequencies also changed but I'm not

1325
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:02,020
gonna say how where it was very

1326
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:07,910
significant and it was people I mean I

1327
01:01:12,490 --> 01:01:10,370
mean he was like this could not have

1328
01:01:13,450 --> 01:01:12,500
happened this does not even make logical

1329
01:01:16,060 --> 01:01:13,460
sense

1330
01:01:19,180 --> 01:01:16,070
so and again we did it scientifically we

1331
01:01:20,770 --> 01:01:19,190
did over and over and over so these are

1332
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:20,780
these are the types of things that I did

1333
01:01:25,060 --> 01:01:24,050
with the DNA and and it's pretty I mean

1334
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:25,070
think about it

1335
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:27,920
what we were able to demonstrate was

1336
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:32,410
that in non-physical entity was

1337
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:36,170
literally changing the DNA so I mean

1338
01:01:41,710 --> 01:01:39,890
that's that's pretty huge you know so so

1339
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:41,720
the other experiments that were done

1340
01:01:46,780 --> 01:01:44,210
with the intent and the healing were

1341
01:01:50,590 --> 01:01:46,790
doing one thing but here we're measuring

1342
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:50,600
human DNA literally change just through

1343
01:01:56,530 --> 01:01:53,090
you know the present well okay so then

1344
01:01:58,450 --> 01:01:56,540
in the film people may say well is it my

1345
01:02:00,850 --> 01:01:58,460
intent or is it the presence of the

1346
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:00,860
being and we did other experiments and

1347
01:02:07,030 --> 01:02:02,690
we continued by the way after the film

1348
01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:07,040
to do more experiments but even if and

1349
01:02:15,010 --> 01:02:11,030
just people who watch just the film see

1350
01:02:16,660 --> 01:02:15,020
whether it's me or the the end

1351
01:02:18,730 --> 01:02:16,670
see the fact that I wasn't even touching

1352
01:02:21,150 --> 01:02:18,740
the DNA you know what I mean

1353
01:02:24,610 --> 01:02:21,160
so how did that transfer happen you know

1354
01:02:27,370 --> 01:02:24,620
exactly at that time so but we are doing

1355
01:02:29,770 --> 01:02:27,380
additional experiments now we're

1356
01:02:34,750 --> 01:02:29,780
designing a whole set of experiments you

1357
01:02:36,820 --> 01:02:34,760
know on the same basis to show you know

1358
01:02:39,310 --> 01:02:36,830
what the difference between me and my

1359
01:02:42,370 --> 01:02:39,320
intent effect of the DNA versus an

1360
01:02:44,110 --> 01:02:42,380
actual entity and which entity and then

1361
01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:44,120
other entities so it's really really

1362
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:47,030
exciting ok well we're at the top of the

1363
01:02:53,290 --> 01:02:50,720
era can you let the listener know where

1364
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,300
they can actually see this film I mean I

1365
01:02:57,490 --> 01:02:55,280
looked at the screen version the

1366
01:03:00,130 --> 01:02:57,500
screening version can someone actually

1367
01:03:02,410 --> 01:03:00,140
rent it at this point yeah it's gonna be

1368
01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:02,420
out in just a few days like October 10th

1369
01:03:10,090 --> 01:03:05,150
so just in a couple of days and people

1370
01:03:13,780 --> 01:03:10,100
can go to the website et - contact comm

1371
01:03:15,220 --> 01:03:13,790
et - contact comm and then go to watch

1372
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:15,230
the film and they'll see all the

1373
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:17,090
information there okay is it gonna be on

1374
01:03:21,250 --> 01:03:19,130
like Amazon or anything like that yeah

1375
01:03:24,340 --> 01:03:21,260
it's gonna be on all the platforms so

1376
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:24,350
people can just choose and decide what

1377
01:03:30,790 --> 01:03:26,720
they like okay so while we're on the

1378
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:30,800
topic of the DNA how controlled was the

1379
01:03:36,430 --> 01:03:34,010
environment that the DNA was stored

1380
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:36,440
between experiments and all that was

1381
01:03:42,370 --> 01:03:39,250
that regular you know really regulated

1382
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:42,380
yeah I mean again so we did the control

1383
01:03:46,540 --> 01:03:44,330
like I said you do it over and over and

1384
01:03:49,090 --> 01:03:46,550
over in the same environment the same

1385
01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:49,100
kind of conditions that's the point and

1386
01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:52,160
this is what these were the results so

1387
01:04:00,280 --> 01:03:56,240
you know that's that's what happened and

1388
01:04:02,380 --> 01:04:00,290
we did another experiment also whoo that

1389
01:04:05,860 --> 01:04:02,390
it's not in the film but like I said

1390
01:04:09,070 --> 01:04:05,870
after we did all these experiments with

1391
01:04:12,610 --> 01:04:09,080
these scientists it was so exciting that

1392
01:04:14,530 --> 01:04:12,620
after the filming we were like oh we

1393
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:14,540
need to do more this is really really

1394
01:04:23,170 --> 01:04:17,090
interesting so I did another experiment

1395
01:04:26,890 --> 01:04:23,180
with dr. Rubik Beverly Rubik and and

1396
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:26,900
Harry jabs they work together and what

1397
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:28,710
they did was

1398
01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:33,200
measure the bio photon emission of

1399
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:36,180
healers for example as they were coming

1400
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:38,250
in contact with their spirit guides or

1401
01:04:43,309 --> 01:04:40,650
what have you and seeing the difference

1402
01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:43,319
so I did another experiment with them

1403
01:04:49,370 --> 01:04:45,599
where it was a long distance it was a

1404
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:49,380
remote contact they were in in San

1405
01:04:55,010 --> 01:04:52,250
Francisco and I was in Los Angeles and

1406
01:04:57,020 --> 01:04:55,020
and we did the same thing it we did the

1407
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:57,030
control for I don't know three hours or

1408
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:00,000
something so we measured the the space

1409
01:05:06,290 --> 01:05:03,450
for a long period of time and then I

1410
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:06,300
came in and I specifically kind of

1411
01:05:12,620 --> 01:05:10,710
invoked an energy for I think it was ten

1412
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:12,630
minutes or twenty minutes I'm not sure

1413
01:05:18,490 --> 01:05:14,490
but for twenty minutes

1414
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:18,500
or that time and then they they

1415
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:20,880
registered like the machines were all

1416
01:05:26,809 --> 01:05:23,490
like registering crazy stuff and then it

1417
01:05:29,420 --> 01:05:26,819
was like nothing the next twenty minutes

1418
01:05:30,349 --> 01:05:29,430
and then when I would do it again the

1419
01:05:32,170 --> 01:05:30,359
next twenty minutes

1420
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:32,180
the machines were so that's how

1421
01:05:37,730 --> 01:05:34,770
scientifically they do it it means they

1422
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:37,740
try to find a correlation on and off on

1423
01:05:43,130 --> 01:05:40,559
and off when you're on they try to find

1424
01:05:45,319 --> 01:05:43,140
the correlation with their machine if

1425
01:05:49,819 --> 01:05:45,329
their machines are reacting or not does

1426
01:05:52,510 --> 01:05:49,829
that make sense yeah okay sure let's see

1427
01:05:56,780 --> 01:05:52,520
I wanted to ask a question that came up

1428
01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:56,790
as far as the ETS where do you think

1429
01:06:02,180 --> 01:05:58,890
they come from that's on the chat in the

1430
01:06:04,970 --> 01:06:02,190
chat room well there's different ones

1431
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:04,980
that come I mean there's hundreds of ETS

1432
01:06:09,740 --> 01:06:06,960
I mean they're and they're coming from

1433
01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:09,750
everywhere for different reasons some of

1434
01:06:17,390 --> 01:06:13,470
them come in to incarnate in human form

1435
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:17,400
some of them are here to simply interact

1436
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:20,690
from again through the black holes

1437
01:06:28,579 --> 01:06:25,410
through what I call introductions so

1438
01:06:31,849 --> 01:06:28,589
they're speaking to us telepathically or

1439
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:31,859
downloading information or that sort of

1440
01:06:37,069 --> 01:06:34,650
interaction and so they they come in

1441
01:06:39,470 --> 01:06:37,079
within our earth space but they're not

1442
01:06:42,229 --> 01:06:39,480
physically here so there are though

1443
01:06:43,819 --> 01:06:42,239
there's tons of those tons

1444
01:06:48,259 --> 01:06:43,829
and they're coming from everywhere

1445
01:06:52,009 --> 01:06:48,269
within this planetary system and doing

1446
01:06:54,529 --> 01:06:52,019
all sorts of downloads and healing and

1447
01:06:58,779 --> 01:06:54,539
teaching and things like that but there

1448
01:07:02,959 --> 01:06:58,789
are also this at this particular time

1449
01:07:06,289 --> 01:07:02,969
there are very specific types of beings

1450
01:07:08,749 --> 01:07:06,299
that are coming from very far away in

1451
01:07:11,389 --> 01:07:08,759
the universe and in fact a couple from

1452
01:07:16,579 --> 01:07:11,399
other universes and this is very unusual

1453
01:07:19,399 --> 01:07:16,589
on a small planet like that so and the

1454
01:07:22,099 --> 01:07:19,409
reason being is because the earth is you

1455
01:07:26,629 --> 01:07:22,109
know just look around needs a little bit

1456
01:07:29,299 --> 01:07:26,639
of help right and so so so there are

1457
01:07:31,759 --> 01:07:29,309
specific types of beings that normally

1458
01:07:35,629 --> 01:07:31,769
don't come to this type of planets

1459
01:07:38,809 --> 01:07:35,639
normally don't come that close to a

1460
01:07:41,809 --> 01:07:38,819
material life-form because they cannot

1461
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:41,819
exist I mean their composition doesn't

1462
01:07:46,939 --> 01:07:44,129
allow them just to survive I've if you

1463
01:07:49,569 --> 01:07:46,949
will so so there's those types of beings

1464
01:07:52,189 --> 01:07:49,579
that are some of them are incarnated

1465
01:07:55,239 --> 01:07:52,199
again it's very very unusual and some of

1466
01:07:59,359 --> 01:07:55,249
them are just here kind of supervising

1467
01:08:01,399 --> 01:07:59,369
what else is going on these are you know

1468
01:08:04,569 --> 01:08:01,409
the guys that we want to connect with

1469
01:08:07,399 --> 01:08:04,579
because these are the beings that are

1470
01:08:10,489 --> 01:08:07,409
coming from a much bigger larger

1471
01:08:14,089 --> 01:08:10,499
consciousness mass and so they are

1472
01:08:17,809 --> 01:08:14,099
bringing with them the bigger story if

1473
01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:17,819
you will that is helping the earth kind

1474
01:08:22,189 --> 01:08:19,849
of move in a particular direction

1475
01:08:23,629 --> 01:08:22,199
whereas the other ones that are close

1476
01:08:27,649 --> 01:08:23,639
from Mars or the moon or whatever

1477
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,659
they're just kind of just you know kind

1478
01:08:32,919 --> 01:08:30,000
of manipulating or moving things or

1479
01:08:35,629 --> 01:08:32,929
adding left on a very local small level

1480
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:35,639
you know I've mentioned this before and

1481
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:38,159
a few different shows that you know if

1482
01:08:42,979 --> 01:08:40,440
it's possible that there's so much

1483
01:08:46,549 --> 01:08:42,989
intelligent life out there you know and

1484
01:08:48,859 --> 01:08:46,559
these are all you know theories but the

1485
01:08:51,620 --> 01:08:48,869
possibility of say billions and billions

1486
01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:51,630
of planets out there that could have

1487
01:08:55,700 --> 01:08:53,849
intelligent life I mean that is possible

1488
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:55,710
then why would be we be

1489
01:09:03,260 --> 01:08:58,650
so special that would be you know

1490
01:09:05,209 --> 01:09:03,270
visited and try to you know stop us

1491
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:05,219
destroying our planet or whatever it is

1492
01:09:10,370 --> 01:09:08,400
why would we be though that special yeah

1493
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:10,380
it's it's a it's an important question

1494
01:09:16,249 --> 01:09:12,930
and it's a big question because it's a

1495
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:16,259
long question too because because of the

1496
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:18,210
history of what happened on the earth

1497
01:09:23,059 --> 01:09:20,250
and it's not just the earth it's more

1498
01:09:26,180 --> 01:09:23,069
the planetary system so what happened is

1499
01:09:28,970 --> 01:09:26,190
that when this planetary system was

1500
01:09:31,070 --> 01:09:28,980
created and also eventually when the

1501
01:09:33,650 --> 01:09:31,080
earth was created it was created

1502
01:09:36,769 --> 01:09:33,660
slightly differently than other

1503
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:36,779
planetary systems it was interfered with

1504
01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:39,600
during its creation or I want to say at

1505
01:09:48,019 --> 01:09:44,630
least I mean originally a little bit

1506
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:48,029
earlier but definitely from about two

1507
01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:50,489
hundred thousand years ago there has

1508
01:09:56,990 --> 01:09:54,360
been a lot of kind of interference and

1509
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:57,000
manipulation and stuff like that that

1510
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:00,000
interfered with the natural evolution of

1511
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:04,320
this planet but the reason why you're

1512
01:10:08,990 --> 01:10:06,690
saying why are we being visited and and

1513
01:10:11,150 --> 01:10:09,000
we're so special I mean the earth is so

1514
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:11,160
special it is because when it was

1515
01:10:17,690 --> 01:10:13,650
created the way it was created was

1516
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:17,700
slightly different it kind of if you can

1517
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:19,290
imagine that the earth and this

1518
01:10:24,860 --> 01:10:21,210
planetary system is at the edge of the

1519
01:10:29,380 --> 01:10:24,870
universe and every planetary system and

1520
01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:29,390
every planet kind of stays connected to

1521
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:33,030
to a core of a galaxy if you will so

1522
01:10:37,490 --> 01:10:35,850
it's kind of like the planets connect to

1523
01:10:39,229 --> 01:10:37,500
the galaxy the galaxy connects to a

1524
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:39,239
cluster of galaxies the clusters of

1525
01:10:45,220 --> 01:10:42,810
galaxies cannot connect to the center of

1526
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:45,230
the universe it's kind of like a little

1527
01:10:51,260 --> 01:10:48,450
Russian doll effect well what happened

1528
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:51,270
with this planetary system is that it

1529
01:10:58,580 --> 01:10:55,010
has a very unique connection that goes

1530
01:11:02,030 --> 01:10:58,590
let's call it an umbilical cord that

1531
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:02,040
umbilical cord is connects directly to

1532
01:11:08,930 --> 01:11:06,719
the universal core so which means that

1533
01:11:09,649 --> 01:11:08,940
again I'm simplifying and I mean I'm you

1534
01:11:11,540 --> 01:11:09,659
know I'm kind of

1535
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:11,550
to answer the question in a way that

1536
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:14,489
makes sense why this is so whatever

1537
01:11:19,939 --> 01:11:17,760
happens on this planetary system on this

1538
01:11:24,799 --> 01:11:19,949
planet is almost like a direct

1539
01:11:27,409 --> 01:11:24,809
connection to the entire universe so it

1540
01:11:31,279 --> 01:11:27,419
was kind of an experiment and because it

1541
01:11:33,109 --> 01:11:31,289
was done this way its configuration it

1542
01:11:34,850 --> 01:11:33,119
affects the entire universe in a

1543
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:34,860
different way than other planetary

1544
01:11:42,770 --> 01:11:39,510
systems and so if you mess up so if you

1545
01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:42,780
interfere with this part of the universe

1546
01:11:48,649 --> 01:11:45,510
then you are affecting the entire

1547
01:11:51,949 --> 01:11:48,659
universe in a different way you see what

1548
01:11:55,279 --> 01:11:51,959
I mean and so it's different if if what

1549
01:11:57,850 --> 01:11:55,289
happened on this planet happened on a in

1550
01:12:01,040 --> 01:11:57,860
a different galaxy it would have been

1551
01:12:03,459 --> 01:12:01,050
probably different the repair or them

1552
01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:03,469
you know the recycling or whatever

1553
01:12:11,089 --> 01:12:06,030
evolution course would have been

1554
01:12:15,979 --> 01:12:11,099
different I had promised a listener they

1555
01:12:18,850 --> 01:12:15,989
asked me to tell my UFO experience live

1556
01:12:21,020 --> 01:12:18,860
on the show and I promised them I would

1557
01:12:24,699 --> 01:12:21,030
so at some point I'm going to do that

1558
01:12:27,709 --> 01:12:24,709
I'm going to try to try to do that but

1559
01:12:31,339 --> 01:12:27,719
there was a question I was going to ask

1560
01:12:34,219 --> 01:12:31,349
you in the chat room and it just slid

1561
01:12:36,140 --> 01:12:34,229
away well first let me ask you are you

1562
01:12:39,620 --> 01:12:36,150
willing to take phone calls if people

1563
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:39,630
want to call in sure absolutely okay so

1564
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:42,449
if anyone wants to call in I'm posting

1565
01:12:46,580 --> 01:12:44,249
that in the chat room right now the

1566
01:12:49,370 --> 01:12:46,590
phone number you're welcome to call in

1567
01:12:52,549 --> 01:12:49,380
at nine six oh three nine six seven four

1568
01:12:55,129 --> 01:12:52,559
o3o and I will join you to the call just

1569
01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:55,139
hang in make sure your computer or

1570
01:12:59,569 --> 01:12:56,760
whatever you're listening to the show is

1571
01:13:01,699 --> 01:12:59,579
muted and I will join you to the call

1572
01:13:04,580 --> 01:13:01,709
and try not to interrupt our guests as

1573
01:13:07,489 --> 01:13:04,590
we're going along here another question

1574
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:07,499
came up in your opinion is it at all

1575
01:13:12,109 --> 01:13:10,169
possible to quantify evidence from

1576
01:13:15,219 --> 01:13:12,119
people who claim they have experienced

1577
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:15,229
some sort some form of consciousness

1578
01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:17,010
communication with an outside

1579
01:13:23,450 --> 01:13:21,360
intelligence yeah I mean the problem is

1580
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:23,460
that's what I started explaining

1581
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:26,090
earlier everybody has communication

1582
01:13:31,790 --> 01:13:29,280
everybody is communicating with again

1583
01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:31,800
either their own higher consciousness or

1584
01:13:40,130 --> 01:13:36,510
some et or some angel the problem is you

1585
01:13:42,770 --> 01:13:40,140
know are they aware of it how much are

1586
01:13:46,130 --> 01:13:42,780
they understanding how much are they

1587
01:13:47,420 --> 01:13:46,140
willing to accept that this is real so

1588
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:47,430
this is kind of like there's a fine line

1589
01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:51,120
and a great area who are the people who

1590
01:13:57,770 --> 01:13:54,360
are doing it consciously you know and

1591
01:13:59,450 --> 01:13:57,780
accepting the fact that this is real so

1592
01:14:03,950 --> 01:13:59,460
you know what I mean so but but

1593
01:14:06,650 --> 01:14:03,960
everybody is you know I don't know if

1594
01:14:08,810 --> 01:14:06,660
that answers a question but yeah well I

1595
01:14:11,690 --> 01:14:08,820
know if there's something like the

1596
01:14:14,090 --> 01:14:11,700
average person has something like forty

1597
01:14:17,630 --> 01:14:14,100
three or forty five thousand thoughts

1598
01:14:19,190 --> 01:14:17,640
per day and some of them just randomly

1599
01:14:20,570 --> 01:14:19,200
pop in you make that and makes you

1600
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:20,580
wonder where some of them come from

1601
01:14:25,940 --> 01:14:24,090
sometimes exactly yeah that's a good

1602
01:14:27,620 --> 01:14:25,950
point

1603
01:14:30,890 --> 01:14:27,630
so someone wanted to know in the chat

1604
01:14:33,050 --> 01:14:30,900
room about synchronicity have you looked

1605
01:14:35,090 --> 01:14:33,060
into that topic at all and does it fit

1606
01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:35,100
anywhere and and what you're speaking

1607
01:14:41,209 --> 01:14:38,310
about yes I mean to me the way this

1608
01:14:45,410 --> 01:14:41,219
works is is before you come in before

1609
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:45,420
you commit to to a human life so to

1610
01:14:50,959 --> 01:14:48,570
speak you don't just jump in and figure

1611
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:50,969
it out as you go along you usually have

1612
01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:55,170
a plan and so the plan usually includes

1613
01:15:01,820 --> 01:14:58,890
other people specific situations and

1614
01:15:05,330 --> 01:15:01,830
events in your life for example meeting

1615
01:15:08,180 --> 01:15:05,340
someone at a particular time or doing

1616
01:15:11,300 --> 01:15:08,190
something that will change your life or

1617
01:15:13,970 --> 01:15:11,310
you know things like that so before you

1618
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:13,980
come in because you have that that

1619
01:15:20,930 --> 01:15:17,690
stories is so to speak written out you

1620
01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:20,940
you make sure that those events are

1621
01:15:27,380 --> 01:15:23,940
going to happen along the way because as

1622
01:15:30,260 --> 01:15:27,390
you come in you also acknowledge and

1623
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:30,270
know that once you are in human form

1624
01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:34,159
you may feel disconnected you may not

1625
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:36,800
member it's part of collapsing your

1626
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:39,650
consciousness from a much bigger mass

1627
01:15:45,959 --> 01:15:43,130
into a much smaller mass and fitting it

1628
01:15:48,850 --> 01:15:45,969
in a human form so this breaking down of

1629
01:15:51,699 --> 01:15:48,860
consciousness is going to make you

1630
01:15:53,890 --> 01:15:51,709
forget and so to make sure you don't

1631
01:15:56,799 --> 01:15:53,900
forget you say at least at least at

1632
01:16:00,250 --> 01:15:56,809
least when I do meet this person it's

1633
01:16:02,379 --> 01:16:00,260
gonna be so strong that I'm gonna

1634
01:16:05,169 --> 01:16:02,389
remember I'm supposed to be with them

1635
01:16:07,060 --> 01:16:05,179
when I meet this person I was gonna

1636
01:16:09,009 --> 01:16:07,070
offer me this job it's gonna be so

1637
01:16:11,709 --> 01:16:09,019
strong that I'm gonna make sure I'm

1638
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:11,719
gonna choose this job and do this job or

1639
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:15,679
whatever so these important events from

1640
01:16:20,799 --> 01:16:18,610
the human perspective seem to be like

1641
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:20,809
synchronicity you know it's like Oh

1642
01:16:24,370 --> 01:16:22,610
guess what you know would you believe

1643
01:16:28,359 --> 01:16:24,380
this I was just thinking about that and

1644
01:16:32,890 --> 01:16:28,369
it just when in fact it's before coming

1645
01:16:34,659 --> 01:16:32,900
in to me anyway you those important

1646
01:16:37,919 --> 01:16:34,669
points are it's not like bread crumbs

1647
01:16:41,949 --> 01:16:37,929
you know to make sure you stay on track

1648
01:16:43,569 --> 01:16:41,959
that's how you you create the you pre

1649
01:16:44,949 --> 01:16:43,579
create these events and then when they

1650
01:16:47,739 --> 01:16:44,959
do happen they appear to be

1651
01:16:49,929 --> 01:16:47,749
synchronicity you know long before I

1652
01:16:54,219 --> 01:16:49,939
ever had this show long before I ever

1653
01:16:56,819 --> 01:16:54,229
had my UFO sighting or anything I met a

1654
01:17:01,390 --> 01:16:56,829
friend I'm still friends with her and

1655
01:17:03,759 --> 01:17:01,400
I'm talking about 15 plus years ago she

1656
01:17:04,959 --> 01:17:03,769
said to me she goes I feel like I don't

1657
01:17:07,839 --> 01:17:04,969
belong here

1658
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:07,849
and so I said what exactly do you mean

1659
01:17:12,279 --> 01:17:10,249
she said I feel like and she started

1660
01:17:15,609 --> 01:17:12,289
laughing she was I feel like I'm from

1661
01:17:16,779 --> 01:17:15,619
another planet or something like and I

1662
01:17:19,810 --> 01:17:16,789
want to go home

1663
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:19,820
she said that yeah what would you say I

1664
01:17:25,359 --> 01:17:22,400
mean this is like a friend from years

1665
01:17:28,029 --> 01:17:25,369
ago and and you know what would you say

1666
01:17:30,939 --> 01:17:28,039
to someone that says that yeah it's it's

1667
01:17:32,890 --> 01:17:30,949
it's very real so part of them is that

1668
01:17:35,020 --> 01:17:32,900
remembrance that they're not from here

1669
01:17:38,020 --> 01:17:35,030
because that channel like I said this

1670
01:17:41,259 --> 01:17:38,030
umbilical cord between the human you and

1671
01:17:44,770 --> 01:17:41,269
your original consciousness is is still

1672
01:17:47,889 --> 01:17:44,780
kind of open and clear so for her that

1673
01:17:52,270 --> 01:17:47,899
channel is is pretty real

1674
01:17:54,969 --> 01:17:52,280
and so she is kind of remembering that

1675
01:17:57,699 --> 01:17:54,979
there's another her somewhere else and

1676
01:18:00,339 --> 01:17:57,709
that's the real her in that other on

1677
01:18:03,579 --> 01:18:00,349
that other planet so to me that makes a

1678
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:03,589
lot of sense well okay yeah this story

1679
01:18:09,729 --> 01:18:07,249
I've told several times over the over

1680
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:09,739
since I've had this show but I'm going

1681
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:11,030
to just say it briefly because it's

1682
01:18:15,699 --> 01:18:13,010
something similar to what you said just

1683
01:18:18,579 --> 01:18:15,709
a few minutes ago and that is I had a

1684
01:18:22,089 --> 01:18:18,589
insurance broker at my house years ago

1685
01:18:24,099 --> 01:18:22,099
20 years at least and he said to me that

1686
01:18:27,369 --> 01:18:24,109
it used to be involved with the part of

1687
01:18:30,579 --> 01:18:27,379
the Air Force that were reviewing UFOs

1688
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:30,589
in Vietnam and you know during the war

1689
01:18:37,389 --> 01:18:35,689
and so I basically I asked him if that's

1690
01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:37,399
so and they're actually here what are

1691
01:18:41,589 --> 01:18:39,409
they what are they doing they said we

1692
01:18:45,159 --> 01:18:41,599
are a petri dish that's what he said

1693
01:18:46,959 --> 01:18:45,169
yeah and that he's a closest he said the

1694
01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:46,969
closest theory of the governments is

1695
01:18:53,109 --> 01:18:51,169
that were a petri dish yeah I agree I

1696
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:53,119
mean I mean not in everything but

1697
01:19:01,020 --> 01:18:56,800
there's definitely a part of that

1698
01:19:03,989 --> 01:19:01,030
connection and that part of this

1699
01:19:07,359 --> 01:19:03,999
communication I mean this kind of

1700
01:19:11,109 --> 01:19:07,369
interaction with extraterrestrial and

1701
01:19:14,290 --> 01:19:11,119
non other non-human entities that have

1702
01:19:16,989 --> 01:19:14,300
to do with genetic manipulation and

1703
01:19:20,469 --> 01:19:16,999
genetic engineering no question but it's

1704
01:19:24,879 --> 01:19:20,479
not the whole story it's just one part

1705
01:19:26,949 --> 01:19:24,889
of the you know the nonhuman presence

1706
01:19:28,089 --> 01:19:26,959
that's here doing that just like kind of

1707
01:19:30,250 --> 01:19:28,099
on earth you know there's some people

1708
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:30,260
doing this kind of program and other

1709
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:33,050
people doing other programs so I think

1710
01:19:38,079 --> 01:19:36,050
the danger is when people start to kind

1711
01:19:41,939 --> 01:19:38,089
of look at one thing that's happening

1712
01:19:45,219 --> 01:19:41,949
and come to the conclusion that all of

1713
01:19:48,099 --> 01:19:45,229
extraterrestrial you know beings or you

1714
01:19:51,429 --> 01:19:48,109
know have to do with working with

1715
01:19:54,219 --> 01:19:51,439
government and you know be you know

1716
01:19:58,479 --> 01:19:54,229
making it like that's the only thing and

1717
01:19:59,890 --> 01:19:58,489
it's not because that's probably maybe

1718
01:20:01,980 --> 01:19:59,900
the most common

1719
01:20:05,650 --> 01:20:01,990
or what that's what they need to

1720
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:05,660
understand for the time being anyway but

1721
01:20:10,410 --> 01:20:07,730
there's a much bigger picture much

1722
01:20:13,470 --> 01:20:10,420
bigger picture I mean even those

1723
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:13,480
extraterrestrials I mean they're not God

1724
01:20:22,540 --> 01:20:17,530
they're not they didn't create all of

1725
01:20:24,940 --> 01:20:22,550
reality they can recreate some parts of

1726
01:20:27,540 --> 01:20:24,950
physical reality but something else

1727
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:27,550
created them so there is a much bigger

1728
01:20:36,430 --> 01:20:30,710
picture than everything else that's down

1729
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:36,440
here right right so the other question

1730
01:20:39,340 --> 01:20:37,040
up here

1731
01:20:41,050 --> 01:20:39,350
what correlation have you observed

1732
01:20:44,410 --> 01:20:41,060
between the various accounts of

1733
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:44,420
unrelated experiencers who claimed

1734
01:20:51,010 --> 01:20:47,810
contact with ET what conclusion do you

1735
01:20:52,930 --> 01:20:51,020
draw from the fact that details of their

1736
01:20:55,660 --> 01:20:52,940
stories seem to be in sync with each

1737
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:55,670
other yeah I mean that's what that's

1738
01:21:01,240 --> 01:20:57,890
what we showed in the film that was that

1739
01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:01,250
the idea was to find people who did not

1740
01:21:05,770 --> 01:21:03,710
know each other at all and the way

1741
01:21:06,910 --> 01:21:05,780
actually one of the techniques that I

1742
01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:06,920
used in the film

1743
01:21:12,130 --> 01:21:08,960
it's intercutting meaning you know I

1744
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:12,140
mean like their stories it was crazy

1745
01:21:17,260 --> 01:21:15,040
I mean we would interview somebody in in

1746
01:21:19,300 --> 01:21:17,270
Boston and they would tell us a story

1747
01:21:20,770 --> 01:21:19,310
and then we would fly to Arizona and

1748
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:20,780
that person would tell us the exact same

1749
01:21:27,010 --> 01:21:23,570
story different age different background

1750
01:21:30,730 --> 01:21:27,020
different sex different cultural you

1751
01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:30,740
know impact I mean it and so that's why

1752
01:21:35,500 --> 01:21:33,710
in the film like we put them all almost

1753
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:35,510
one after the other and they were

1754
01:21:40,810 --> 01:21:37,310
finishing each other's sentences

1755
01:21:44,770 --> 01:21:40,820
so it's mind-blowing and what also was

1756
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:44,780
very interesting was the scientists also

1757
01:21:49,900 --> 01:21:47,450
were did they did not know each other

1758
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:49,910
you had a quantum biologist and then you

1759
01:21:54,370 --> 01:21:51,770
had an astrophysicist so it's very

1760
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:54,380
different by an electrical engineer and

1761
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:57,410
they were also kind of using similar

1762
01:22:01,240 --> 01:21:59,360
terminology and coming to similar

1763
01:22:03,340 --> 01:22:01,250
concluded so is it's pretty

1764
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:03,350
mind-boggling what was what's happening

1765
01:22:11,380 --> 01:22:06,530
out there I think yeah you know you

1766
01:22:13,770 --> 01:22:11,390
start to wonder like this is real so do

1767
01:22:16,979 --> 01:22:13,780
you think there's one theory

1768
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:16,989
of what I'm trying to remember what what

1769
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:19,690
Einstein was looking for the theory of

1770
01:22:26,279 --> 01:22:22,570
everything right do you think that there

1771
01:22:28,919 --> 01:22:26,289
is such a thing yeah actually I do and

1772
01:22:32,540 --> 01:22:28,929
that's what we were talking about in the

1773
01:22:36,510 --> 01:22:32,550
film as well because by the time we

1774
01:22:39,330 --> 01:22:36,520
explained how black holes and the

1775
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:39,340
magnetism and the fabric of space itself

1776
01:22:45,569 --> 01:22:43,090
and quantum the quantum waves and how

1777
01:22:47,609 --> 01:22:45,579
they behave by the time we kind of put

1778
01:22:50,609 --> 01:22:47,619
it all together and connected the dots

1779
01:22:53,729 --> 01:22:50,619
we realize that wait a minute

1780
01:22:56,459 --> 01:22:53,739
this explains physical space the it

1781
01:22:59,459 --> 01:22:56,469
explains quantum space meaning the space

1782
01:23:03,209 --> 01:22:59,469
we don't see this explains the mechanics

1783
01:23:06,779 --> 01:23:03,219
within both spaces meaning telepathic

1784
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:06,789
communication teleportation nonlocality

1785
01:23:11,330 --> 01:23:09,250
it kind of like all of a sudden like

1786
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:11,340
wait a minute we're now talking about

1787
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:14,110
consciousness is this the theory of

1788
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:17,199
consciousness are we isn't that more

1789
01:23:21,740 --> 01:23:19,570
what we should be looking at as the

1790
01:23:26,540 --> 01:23:21,750
theory of everything so I definitely

1791
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:26,550
think there is such a thing but it's not

1792
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:30,250
just the physical universe where we need

1793
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:32,770
to be talking about the quantum space

1794
01:23:40,529 --> 01:23:36,489
the quantum signature and quantum

1795
01:23:42,990 --> 01:23:40,539
reality as well so it's it seems to me

1796
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:43,000
this would lead into and you probably

1797
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:48,489
talked about it in your film but so how

1798
01:23:55,859 --> 01:23:50,170
does reincarnation fit into this whole

1799
01:23:58,890 --> 01:23:55,869
thing yeah so so again going back to

1800
01:24:01,109 --> 01:23:58,900
where you start let's say to go back to

1801
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:01,119
this exam example you start out let's

1802
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:04,210
say at the platies and you say you look

1803
01:24:08,339 --> 01:24:06,639
down at the planet and planet Earth and

1804
01:24:10,350 --> 01:24:08,349
you say you know I think I'm gonna go

1805
01:24:13,410 --> 01:24:10,360
down and help those little Earthlings

1806
01:24:16,799 --> 01:24:13,420
down there I'm gonna be an a human

1807
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:16,809
myself and I think I'm going to like I

1808
01:24:21,299 --> 01:24:19,270
said you write a you have a story you

1809
01:24:25,649 --> 01:24:21,309
have a program you have a plan and that

1810
01:24:27,870 --> 01:24:25,659
plan is to let's say raise human

1811
01:24:31,170 --> 01:24:27,880
consciousness maybe bring some

1812
01:24:36,510 --> 01:24:31,180
cosmic spiritual teaching to that

1813
01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:36,520
particular planet so before you come in

1814
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:40,510
it's it's like you its calculations it's

1815
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:43,090
it's literally mathematics but to

1816
01:24:49,290 --> 01:24:45,970
simplify it so so you kind of think of

1817
01:24:54,090 --> 01:24:49,300
the the amount of consciousness you're

1818
01:24:56,190 --> 01:24:54,100
going to need in a human body to create

1819
01:25:00,030 --> 01:24:56,200
that whole story to accomplish your goal

1820
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:00,040
so from that original point of view from

1821
01:25:03,630 --> 01:25:01,930
that starting point which is at the

1822
01:25:06,540 --> 01:25:03,640
plate is looking down at the earth you

1823
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:06,550
say okay I'm probably gonna need about

1824
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:12,010
10 to 15 at least life times 10 to 15

1825
01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:15,930
lifetimes to accomplish this one goal so

1826
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:19,030
from the beginning you know that your

1827
01:25:23,610 --> 01:25:20,800
consciousness is gonna have to split up

1828
01:25:27,210 --> 01:25:23,620
ten to fifteen times so one a part of

1829
01:25:29,850 --> 01:25:27,220
you is gonna come in at 3000 BC another

1830
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:29,860
one is gonna come in at a thousand BC

1831
01:25:33,900 --> 01:25:31,210
and other one's going to come in I don't

1832
01:25:37,710 --> 01:25:33,910
know in the year ten ad or whatever so

1833
01:25:42,270 --> 01:25:37,720
you kind of already space it out so that

1834
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:42,280
you cover that amount of time to to

1835
01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:44,770
finish your to accomplish your goal and

1836
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:47,470
so so that's the reason why from the

1837
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:50,110
beginning all of these lives are more

1838
01:25:56,130 --> 01:25:51,730
like parallel lives because they

1839
01:25:58,640 --> 01:25:56,140
actually co-exist but as you go in and

1840
01:26:03,300 --> 01:25:58,650
you take on the first body meaning you

1841
01:26:06,630 --> 01:26:03,310
you come in in the first human form 3000

1842
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:06,640
years ago and you act out your human

1843
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:09,130
thing of course not everything goes

1844
01:26:14,610 --> 01:26:11,290
according to plan you forget certain

1845
01:26:17,610 --> 01:26:14,620
things you kind of you know get involved

1846
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:17,620
with the wrong things for a while so you

1847
01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:20,890
are actually kind of messing up a little

1848
01:26:27,390 --> 01:26:24,340
bit your reincarnation program so but

1849
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:27,400
you do have already a reincarnation plan

1850
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:31,330
in place before even coming here you see

1851
01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:33,970
what I mean and so when you by the time

1852
01:26:38,940 --> 01:26:36,000
you get to the third or the fourth

1853
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:38,950
lifetime from the human perspective

1854
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:41,170
looking back it looks like

1855
01:26:45,660 --> 01:26:43,570
to past life but actually from the

1856
01:26:49,410 --> 01:26:45,670
beginning from your original self it's

1857
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:49,420
all parallel and an instantaneous at the

1858
01:26:56,910 --> 01:26:53,610
same time is that confusing enough yeah

1859
01:26:58,800 --> 01:26:56,920
yeah I'm not sure if I I've never really

1860
01:27:01,709 --> 01:26:58,810
bought the reincarnation thing and I

1861
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:01,719
know every time I say that not every

1862
01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:03,370
time but I've said that a few times I I

1863
01:27:08,700 --> 01:27:05,830
do get email there's a lot of people

1864
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:08,710
that really strongly believe in in it

1865
01:27:13,260 --> 01:27:10,690
but you know this is it's a UFO show

1866
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:13,270
it's quite a bit off-topic but that's my

1867
01:27:21,180 --> 01:27:18,130
fault for asking that question so has

1868
01:27:22,530 --> 01:27:21,190
there been any study from the

1869
01:27:25,919 --> 01:27:22,540
information claimed to have been

1870
01:27:28,260 --> 01:27:25,929
received by unique individuals and has

1871
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:28,270
there been any parallels drawn from this

1872
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:30,730
data I'm not sure exactly what that

1873
01:27:38,250 --> 01:27:35,199
questions framed around exactly has any

1874
01:27:42,570 --> 01:27:38,260
information come from specific so that

1875
01:27:45,630 --> 01:27:42,580
again yeah has any information has there

1876
01:27:47,850 --> 01:27:45,640
been any study from from the information

1877
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:47,860
claimed to have been received by unique

1878
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:50,489
individuals and there has there been any

1879
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:52,650
parallels I think he's talking about

1880
01:28:00,540 --> 01:27:57,130
communication right so I mean you mean

1881
01:28:06,510 --> 01:28:00,550
in the film or no no that you've

1882
01:28:08,669 --> 01:28:06,520
experienced I guess for me you mean so I

1883
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:08,679
it's a well I can speak for myself

1884
01:28:14,729 --> 01:28:12,730
actually and I've come in contact with

1885
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:14,739
different types of beings that you know

1886
01:28:19,050 --> 01:28:17,110
is not so common most people talk about

1887
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:19,060
the greys or the reptilians or the

1888
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:21,610
Pelagians or Arcturians and things like

1889
01:28:26,340 --> 01:28:23,850
that but the types of beings that I

1890
01:28:28,919 --> 01:28:26,350
speak with and I've encountered other

1891
01:28:32,820 --> 01:28:28,929
than these guys because I've also seen

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01:28:36,150 --> 01:28:32,830
in physical form some of the white tall

1893
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:36,160
whites and some of the Nordics like

1894
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:38,400
physically but you know

1895
01:28:42,450 --> 01:28:40,690
inter-dimensionally if you will I've

1896
01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:42,460
also come in contact with different

1897
01:28:47,459 --> 01:28:44,980
types of beings that most people don't

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01:28:52,110 --> 01:28:47,469
talk about they're more like from

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01:28:54,549 --> 01:28:52,120
another universe and as they they're

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01:28:56,049 --> 01:28:54,559
more they more have they

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01:28:59,250 --> 01:28:56,059
have to do their work or their

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01:29:03,040 --> 01:28:59,260
consciousness is more about the

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01:29:05,020 --> 01:29:03,050
management or the organization of an

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01:29:07,809 --> 01:29:05,030
entire universe oh it's it's kind of on

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01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:07,819
a much bigger scale I want to say so

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01:29:14,859 --> 01:29:09,760
these are the types of beings that I've

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01:29:16,599 --> 01:29:14,869
very much been in contact with on earth

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01:29:18,099 --> 01:29:16,609
throughout my life actually there's

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01:29:20,020 --> 01:29:18,109
different types of being some of them

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01:29:22,779 --> 01:29:20,030
are called life architects some of them

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01:29:26,099 --> 01:29:22,789
are called some may have heard of the

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01:29:29,790 --> 01:29:26,109
Melchizedek's because of its out there

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01:29:34,419 --> 01:29:29,800
but some of them are called Universal

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01:29:37,599 --> 01:29:34,429
teachers and the life architects I want

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01:29:41,529 --> 01:29:37,609
to say are very unique type beings that

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01:29:44,290 --> 01:29:41,539
I don't think people have heard about so

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01:29:47,379 --> 01:29:44,300
so these are the type of beings that I

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01:29:49,869 --> 01:29:47,389
that I have come in contact with and

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01:29:53,469 --> 01:29:49,879
it's very specific and that's how I

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01:29:56,319 --> 01:29:53,479
understand the make the connection of

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01:29:57,909 --> 01:29:56,329
the earth with the universe because of

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01:30:04,029 --> 01:29:57,919
those types of communication

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01:30:08,469 --> 01:30:04,039
I see Leslie wants to know if if your

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01:30:10,779 --> 01:30:08,479
entities ever had physical forms yeah

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01:30:13,989 --> 01:30:10,789
that's what I said so so usually when

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01:30:18,569 --> 01:30:13,999
they are yeah when they come from very

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01:30:22,389 --> 01:30:18,579
far away the consciousness mass is so

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01:30:24,669 --> 01:30:22,399
huge that they cannot take a physical

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01:30:28,209 --> 01:30:24,679
form it's kind of like they don't fit in

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01:30:30,099 --> 01:30:28,219
a physical form and they cannot survive

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01:30:32,679 --> 01:30:30,109
in a physical form like they can't just

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01:30:34,809 --> 01:30:32,689
manifest physically and then disappear

1933
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:34,819
but those types of beings now there are

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01:30:41,739 --> 01:30:37,489
others that I've seen in physical form

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01:30:44,649 --> 01:30:41,749
like I said just a minute ago I bumped

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01:30:49,540 --> 01:30:44,659
into a tall white in Vegas of all places

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01:30:54,759 --> 01:30:49,550
actually physically another one was a

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01:30:57,129 --> 01:30:54,769
Nordic very much physical so so I did

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01:31:00,219 --> 01:30:57,139
have those types of interactions that as

1940
01:31:01,839 --> 01:31:00,229
well okay have you there's another

1941
01:31:04,290 --> 01:31:01,849
question in the chat room have you ever

1942
01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:04,300
experienced or know of an orb

1943
01:31:08,140 --> 01:31:06,649
communicating with a human through

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01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:08,150
toffee

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01:31:13,020 --> 01:31:09,770
I've heard of this before - yes

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01:31:16,540 --> 01:31:13,030
absolutely so again the some of these

1947
01:31:20,230 --> 01:31:16,550
orbs are actual beings you know and some

1948
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:20,240
of them are not so it depends like I

1949
01:31:25,090 --> 01:31:22,490
said earlier some of the beings that

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01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:25,100
come from very far away it's very

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01:31:30,070 --> 01:31:28,010
difficult for them to take on a physical

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01:31:32,980 --> 01:31:30,080
form so they're gonna appear they're

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01:31:35,260 --> 01:31:32,990
gonna look like an orb like just like an

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01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:35,270
energy form like an orb but they're an

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01:31:42,690 --> 01:31:39,440
actual being so so so of course they

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01:31:47,290 --> 01:31:42,700
communicate with you other orbs are not

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01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:47,300
beings themselves but they're are kind

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01:31:55,180 --> 01:31:51,010
of like a it's like a consciousness

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01:31:58,180 --> 01:31:55,190
space it's kind of like a hub of

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01:32:00,730 --> 01:31:58,190
information so so it depends the type of

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01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:00,740
orbs that you are connecting with either

1962
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:04,250
way you can receive communication I had

1963
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:08,450
someone that was on this show that took

1964
01:32:14,830 --> 01:32:11,690
a report from an elderly woman who said

1965
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:14,840
that she saw an orange this hold on to

1966
01:32:20,770 --> 01:32:17,210
your seat on this one she saw an orange

1967
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:20,780
orb land in a field and out of it came a

1968
01:32:30,010 --> 01:32:25,730
Bigfoot okay so that was that one was

1969
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:30,020
way out there but so let's see another

1970
01:32:34,450 --> 01:32:31,610
person in the chat room do any of these

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01:32:39,010 --> 01:32:34,460
entities embody negative energy of

1972
01:32:41,590 --> 01:32:39,020
course I mean I mean there's all kinds

1973
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:41,600
of beings out there sometimes

1974
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:43,370
unfortunately because I do a lot of

1975
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:46,010
healing work as well I mean part of the

1976
01:32:52,060 --> 01:32:48,770
consciousness work that I've done for

1977
01:32:54,670 --> 01:32:52,070
many many years is also helping with

1978
01:32:56,620 --> 01:32:54,680
clearing the energy so you can expand

1979
01:32:59,230 --> 01:32:56,630
your consciousness and reconnect and

1980
01:33:00,700 --> 01:32:59,240
stuff like that so during this work

1981
01:33:03,070 --> 01:33:00,710
because like I said because I could

1982
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:03,080
perceive the subtle energy I would see

1983
01:33:09,700 --> 01:33:05,090
all sorts of being floating around the

1984
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:09,710
person and so that entity was definitely

1985
01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:11,330
very negative a lot of them were just

1986
01:33:17,530 --> 01:33:14,000
floating in their energy field some of

1987
01:33:20,050 --> 01:33:17,540
them were literally attached to the B in

1988
01:33:21,729 --> 01:33:20,060
other words inside the body of the

1989
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:21,739
person and I had to

1990
01:33:27,940 --> 01:33:24,650
detach them and so sometimes it's

1991
01:33:32,590 --> 01:33:27,950
specifically negative like the they are

1992
01:33:37,450 --> 01:33:32,600
on purpose you know kind of leading you

1993
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:37,460
in a negative way but others are kind of

1994
01:33:43,420 --> 01:33:41,330
coming into your energy to have an

1995
01:33:45,700 --> 01:33:43,430
experience a human experience or

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01:33:48,010 --> 01:33:45,710
something like that it doesn't mean that

1997
01:33:51,459 --> 01:33:48,020
it's good or it's better you're not

1998
01:33:52,990 --> 01:33:51,469
supposed to be doing that but I'm just

1999
01:33:56,220 --> 01:33:53,000
saying like there's a difference and

2000
01:33:59,170 --> 01:33:56,230
others are literally dark dark energies

2001
01:34:02,650 --> 01:33:59,180
these dark energies you're gonna see

2002
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:02,660
them mostly with folks who drink a lot

2003
01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:05,360
who do a lot of drugs and the reason

2004
01:34:11,709 --> 01:34:08,719
being you lose control like your own

2005
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:11,719
energy space is open it's kind of

2006
01:34:17,830 --> 01:34:13,850
collapsed and you have no control

2007
01:34:21,130 --> 01:34:17,840
because as a when you take drugs or your

2008
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:21,140
drink you think and your your

2009
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:23,450
consciousness is not in control of your

2010
01:34:28,930 --> 01:34:25,610
being so this is when you're gonna have

2011
01:34:31,270 --> 01:34:28,940
a negative entity come in well yeah I've

2012
01:34:33,370 --> 01:34:31,280
known a few people that they seem to

2013
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:33,380
have like a negative cloud around them

2014
01:34:38,190 --> 01:34:36,050
you know yeah what do they call them

2015
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:38,200
energy vampires or something oh

2016
01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:40,400
definitely I call them attachment

2017
01:34:44,410 --> 01:34:42,110
they're attachments and usually they

2018
01:34:46,350 --> 01:34:44,420
attach to the spine of the person and

2019
01:34:50,500 --> 01:34:46,360
they can cause all sorts of problems

2020
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:50,510
also of course illnesses and mental

2021
01:34:55,180 --> 01:34:53,690
illness because speaking of thoughts you

2022
01:34:56,979 --> 01:34:55,190
mentioned earlier there's all these

2023
01:34:59,470 --> 01:34:56,989
thoughts that are jumping in your head

2024
01:35:01,870 --> 01:34:59,480
well you're drinking and all of a sudden

2025
01:35:05,170 --> 01:35:01,880
you're kind of you know hearing voices

2026
01:35:07,270 --> 01:35:05,180
and youth and then you're saying my

2027
01:35:09,790 --> 01:35:07,280
hearing is that me am i making this up

2028
01:35:11,979 --> 01:35:09,800
that so now you're like you know you're

2029
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:11,989
adding to your confusion we're actually

2030
01:35:16,570 --> 01:35:14,210
you are hearing voices because it's

2031
01:35:19,090 --> 01:35:16,580
another entity that's they're speaking

2032
01:35:20,860 --> 01:35:19,100
to you and if you continue having these

2033
01:35:24,700 --> 01:35:20,870
experiences and confusing yourself

2034
01:35:28,030 --> 01:35:24,710
that's how schizophrenia happens because

2035
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:28,040
you are hearing things

2036
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:29,930
and others are telling you there's

2037
01:35:35,109 --> 01:35:33,410
nobody there and and actually you there

2038
01:35:37,929 --> 01:35:35,119
are other entities just attack

2039
01:35:41,639 --> 01:35:37,939
to you speaking to you so it's very much

2040
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:41,649
real and that's how you become

2041
01:35:46,409 --> 01:35:44,239
schizophrenic unfortunately a lot of

2042
01:35:51,009 --> 01:35:46,419
mental illness has to do with entities

2043
01:35:52,419 --> 01:35:51,019
well so Jade in the chat room has an

2044
01:35:55,839 --> 01:35:52,429
interesting question for you

2045
01:35:58,869 --> 01:35:55,849
has there been one scientific fact about

2046
01:36:01,929 --> 01:35:58,879
our galaxy or universe that we've yet to

2047
01:36:04,359 --> 01:36:01,939
discover that your aliens have told you

2048
01:36:07,719 --> 01:36:04,369
which is now testable through

2049
01:36:11,469 --> 01:36:07,729
observation well that's what I'm so

2050
01:36:13,959 --> 01:36:11,479
after this film I kind of bonded with

2051
01:36:18,189 --> 01:36:13,969
all these scientists and so we continued

2052
01:36:21,699 --> 01:36:18,199
to work together and you know on other

2053
01:36:24,250 --> 01:36:21,709
topics so I mean actually communicating

2054
01:36:26,350 --> 01:36:24,260
and talk working with dr. Sheila Howard

2055
01:36:30,069 --> 01:36:26,360
the astrophysicist that I mentioned

2056
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:30,079
earlier and that's exactly what we are

2057
01:36:37,540 --> 01:36:34,249
working on we are so we kind of like

2058
01:36:40,419 --> 01:36:37,550
bring this information of how the black

2059
01:36:42,939 --> 01:36:40,429
holes are actually formed meaning even

2060
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:42,949
before you know is there a Big Bang is

2061
01:36:49,359 --> 01:36:46,090
there's no Big Bang so we're actually

2062
01:36:53,500 --> 01:36:49,369
finding out a lot of the things that we

2063
01:36:58,419 --> 01:36:53,510
are told in a direct manner that later

2064
01:37:01,209 --> 01:36:58,429
dr. shield is able to say well we were

2065
01:37:05,589 --> 01:37:01,219
able to measure this or we came to that

2066
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:05,599
conclusion one of the thing well hold on

2067
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:08,050
no this has not been demonstrated yet

2068
01:37:14,739 --> 01:37:12,530
let me try to think of the one that has

2069
01:37:18,279 --> 01:37:14,749
been demonstrated well I mean you know

2070
01:37:20,799 --> 01:37:18,289
I've we've only I have been sharing this

2071
01:37:22,270 --> 01:37:20,809
with dr. shield only since the film so

2072
01:37:24,399 --> 01:37:22,280
it's only been six months so I don't

2073
01:37:27,189 --> 01:37:24,409
know about what revelation but I can

2074
01:37:31,290 --> 01:37:27,199
tell you of other examples for example

2075
01:37:34,119 --> 01:37:31,300
one that's probably the most known is

2076
01:37:38,819 --> 01:37:34,129
way way back probably about 15 years ago

2077
01:37:42,790 --> 01:37:38,829
in fact I wrote about it in my books I

2078
01:37:45,099 --> 01:37:42,800
saw that these cosmic webs those those

2079
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:45,109
grids that are around each planet have

2080
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:48,770
like I said earlier a particular do

2081
01:37:53,650 --> 01:37:52,250
mitrik shape and I'm on the north pole

2082
01:37:56,140 --> 01:37:53,660
if you looked at it from the North Pole

2083
01:37:59,140 --> 01:37:56,150
you would see like a hexagon and so

2084
01:38:03,910 --> 01:37:59,150
that's because of the way the this

2085
01:38:06,340 --> 01:38:03,920
planet the grid is kind of the way the

2086
01:38:07,690 --> 01:38:06,350
way it sits it's aligned it's a grid

2087
01:38:11,020 --> 01:38:07,700
with an ax greater than the grid but

2088
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:11,030
from that perspective and so I saw that

2089
01:38:16,300 --> 01:38:13,850
every I mean or you know brought the

2090
01:38:19,630 --> 01:38:16,310
information that every planet has that

2091
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:19,640
hexagon and so I wrote that in my books

2092
01:38:23,710 --> 01:38:21,410
now I was telling people in the class

2093
01:38:25,480 --> 01:38:23,720
and things like that and then later I

2094
01:38:27,910 --> 01:38:25,490
think more recently and I want to say

2095
01:38:29,950 --> 01:38:27,920
about seven years ago I'm not sure you

2096
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:29,960
can look it up but the Cassini the

2097
01:38:38,370 --> 01:38:35,650
NASA's Cassini mission photographed the

2098
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:38,380
hexagon at the North Pole of Saturn

2099
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:42,290
which I had already kind of knew known

2100
01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:45,050
about and talked about so these are the

2101
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:47,600
types of thing and also the number of

2102
01:38:51,580 --> 01:38:50,000
planets within the planetary system so

2103
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:51,590
these are the types of things that I

2104
01:38:58,480 --> 01:38:54,890
that I bring from those types of beings

2105
01:39:01,450 --> 01:38:58,490
Universal beings information that later

2106
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:01,460
gets verified by NASA or some other

2107
01:39:06,850 --> 01:39:04,610
scientists but we're going to be doing

2108
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:06,860
more of this science and actually

2109
01:39:14,500 --> 01:39:09,770
putting it out there on the website and

2110
01:39:18,430 --> 01:39:14,510
on my I have a foundation as well also

2111
01:39:20,110 --> 01:39:18,440
that's very much for of that purpose so

2112
01:39:22,990 --> 01:39:20,120
we're going to be putting a lot of this

2113
01:39:27,310 --> 01:39:23,000
information out as well great okay well

2114
01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:27,320
I did promise a listener that I tell the

2115
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:29,450
story about my sighting so real quickly

2116
01:39:34,510 --> 01:39:33,050
I'll do the quick version of it this is

2117
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:34,520
someone that recently started listening

2118
01:39:40,060 --> 01:39:36,170
to the show and started supporting the

2119
01:39:42,130 --> 01:39:40,070
show so thank you for that so anyway and

2120
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:42,140
this really has nothing to do with with

2121
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:44,570
talking to you so I'll try to make it

2122
01:39:52,150 --> 01:39:47,690
quick that's okay so it was I think it

2123
01:39:54,430 --> 01:39:52,160
was 2006 it was around 8 o'clock I was

2124
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:54,440
in a hot tub I had just had surgery a

2125
01:39:59,740 --> 01:39:57,250
few weeks ahead a few weeks before

2126
01:40:03,250 --> 01:39:59,750
sitting in a hot tub in Carmel Valley

2127
01:40:05,050 --> 01:40:03,260
and a friend's ranch they had

2128
01:40:07,990 --> 01:40:05,060
so they said I could use a ranch for a

2129
01:40:10,690 --> 01:40:08,000
few days so I went down there I was not

2130
01:40:13,500 --> 01:40:10,700
drinking I was not on medication I had

2131
01:40:16,330 --> 01:40:13,510
weaned myself off of pain medication and

2132
01:40:18,670 --> 01:40:16,340
I was just relaxing the hot topic I love

2133
01:40:21,729 --> 01:40:18,680
to look up at the stars and all of a

2134
01:40:24,270 --> 01:40:21,739
sudden it was it was no stars actually

2135
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:24,280
at that time but it was sort of like

2136
01:40:29,350 --> 01:40:26,810
dusk a little later than that somewhere

2137
01:40:32,979 --> 01:40:29,360
around 8 8 o'clock or something and all

2138
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:32,989
of a sudden a perfectly shaped disc just

2139
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:37,250
like flew right over my head and the

2140
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:39,110
thing that impressed me the most about

2141
01:40:43,870 --> 01:40:41,690
any of it was there was absolutely no

2142
01:40:45,790 --> 01:40:43,880
sound at all I mean that's the thing

2143
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:45,800
that stuck in my memory the most it has

2144
01:40:51,700 --> 01:40:48,970
sort of had like a bluish gray glow

2145
01:40:53,830 --> 01:40:51,710
again it was just like the old-fashioned

2146
01:40:57,130 --> 01:40:53,840
flying saucer and it moved in a straight

2147
01:41:02,200 --> 01:40:57,140
line and it stopped and then it moved in

2148
01:41:05,020 --> 01:41:02,210
an angle toward Monterey so I got out of

2149
01:41:06,729 --> 01:41:05,030
the hot tub I went in and I didn't know

2150
01:41:08,590 --> 01:41:06,739
what to do I had no idea there was any

2151
01:41:13,140 --> 01:41:08,600
online reporting or anything like that

2152
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:13,150
so I I called the police department of

2153
01:41:18,670 --> 01:41:17,450
Monterey and I said has anyone else I

2154
01:41:21,729 --> 01:41:18,680
just want to know has anyone else

2155
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:21,739
reported seeing a UFO and the woman

2156
01:41:26,530 --> 01:41:24,770
treated me very sarcastically she put me

2157
01:41:28,090 --> 01:41:26,540
on hold for about 20 minutes I finally

2158
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:28,100
hung up I

2159
01:41:33,220 --> 01:41:31,489
I brought it up to someone I worked with

2160
01:41:36,010 --> 01:41:33,230
I was working at an auction gallery with

2161
01:41:37,270 --> 01:41:36,020
about 25 or 30 people and no I had a

2162
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:37,280
friend there and I said please don't

2163
01:41:41,170 --> 01:41:38,930
tell anyone but I have to tell you this

2164
01:41:44,229 --> 01:41:41,180
story well next thing you know everyone

2165
01:41:47,140 --> 01:41:44,239
there was ridiculing me talking yes you

2166
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:47,150
know space aliens and all that so so

2167
01:41:52,630 --> 01:41:48,050
that's my story

2168
01:41:55,330 --> 01:41:52,640
so I fulfilled my promise well you know

2169
01:41:59,530 --> 01:41:55,340
one thing that you brought up is the way

2170
01:42:02,470 --> 01:41:59,540
the UFO was behaving was it came it came

2171
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:02,480
out from somewhere it moved in one

2172
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:05,810
straight line and then it stopped and

2173
01:42:11,170 --> 01:42:07,489
then it moved in a different direction

2174
01:42:15,459 --> 01:42:11,180
so we talked about that in the film

2175
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:15,469
again how those intersection points

2176
01:42:19,149 --> 01:42:16,400
those

2177
01:42:23,709 --> 01:42:19,159
black holes within the fàbregas face is

2178
01:42:25,810 --> 01:42:23,719
what allows the UFO to do that so this

2179
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:25,820
one of the theories that's in the film

2180
01:42:29,740 --> 01:42:28,010
as well so that makes a lot of sense

2181
01:42:32,620 --> 01:42:29,750
what you're saying Wow

2182
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:32,630
yeah it was it really did you know it

2183
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:35,210
changed my way of thinking about things

2184
01:42:39,550 --> 01:42:37,370
I had you know a brief interest in the

2185
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:39,560
topic when I was at you know young but

2186
01:42:46,030 --> 01:42:41,690
it really just changed like everything

2187
01:42:47,740 --> 01:42:46,040
it was like I never thought of taking a

2188
01:42:50,110 --> 01:42:47,750
picture I don't think I had my phone on

2189
01:42:52,450 --> 01:42:50,120
me anyway but you know there was never

2190
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:52,460
any thoughts but it was like oh my god

2191
01:42:58,959 --> 01:42:56,810
it is it really happens so another

2192
01:43:01,959 --> 01:42:58,969
question have you come across cases

2193
01:43:03,700 --> 01:43:01,969
where a group encounter abduction took

2194
01:43:05,979 --> 01:43:03,710
place between people that did not

2195
01:43:08,410 --> 01:43:05,989
previously know each other and then

2196
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:08,420
later those people meet in some random

2197
01:43:15,700 --> 01:43:13,280
way that was by actually actually in the

2198
01:43:18,610 --> 01:43:15,710
film I didn't come across that I mean

2199
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:18,620
like in the film we interviewed two

2200
01:43:26,350 --> 01:43:20,810
different people actually who said the

2201
01:43:29,740 --> 01:43:26,360
same thing that they said that they were

2202
01:43:32,740 --> 01:43:29,750
on a ship somewhere and then later on

2203
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:32,750
they met someone on like an a grocery

2204
01:43:37,990 --> 01:43:34,880
store or something like that and then

2205
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:38,000
that person told them I know you you

2206
01:43:44,229 --> 01:43:41,210
were on that ship so so I was told that

2207
01:43:46,419 --> 01:43:44,239
story I didn't see it myself in that way

2208
01:43:48,250 --> 01:43:46,429
and so that was one person we

2209
01:43:50,050 --> 01:43:48,260
interviewed and then another person we

2210
01:43:52,030 --> 01:43:50,060
interviewed like in a completely

2211
01:43:55,450 --> 01:43:52,040
different location told me the same

2212
01:43:57,610 --> 01:43:55,460
thing happened to her so it's it's

2213
01:44:01,060 --> 01:43:57,620
pretty amazing how would you possibly

2214
01:44:05,470 --> 01:44:01,070
break the ice with someone and say yeah

2215
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:05,480
I think I saw you on her ship exactly at

2216
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:07,489
a grocery store yeah yeah that would be

2217
01:44:16,060 --> 01:44:11,449
hard to do yeah yeah so are you planning

2218
01:44:18,370 --> 01:44:16,070
on making more films or you know similar

2219
01:44:20,530 --> 01:44:18,380
her yeah yeah

2220
01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:20,540
so because of what happened and because

2221
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:22,760
the scientists got so excited so you

2222
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:24,290
know that really encouraged me to

2223
01:44:29,300 --> 01:44:28,010
continue and also the film I mean we've

2224
01:44:32,330 --> 01:44:29,310
already won like

2225
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:32,340
six Festival Awards and you know are

2226
01:44:37,970 --> 01:44:34,650
nominated for four different awards it's

2227
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:37,980
such so and that that was also very

2228
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:40,890
exciting for me because those festivals

2229
01:44:46,430 --> 01:44:43,410
you know are run by film people they're

2230
01:44:47,810 --> 01:44:46,440
not UFO people so they don't really like

2231
01:44:51,260 --> 01:44:47,820
they have no prejudice I'm in they are

2232
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:51,270
not into that topic you know and so

2233
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:55,530
they're judging the film as a good film

2234
01:45:01,370 --> 01:44:59,280
well done or not is it credible is it

2235
01:45:04,970 --> 01:45:01,380
does it hold you know is it well

2236
01:45:07,220 --> 01:45:04,980
presented so on so forth and so so

2237
01:45:12,050 --> 01:45:07,230
because there is so much recognition

2238
01:45:14,630 --> 01:45:12,060
that tells me that even mainstream film

2239
01:45:17,810 --> 01:45:14,640
folks who are creating films for the

2240
01:45:20,420 --> 01:45:17,820
mainstream are getting it I mean I was

2241
01:45:21,950 --> 01:45:20,430
kind of shocked in a way and so because

2242
01:45:24,650 --> 01:45:21,960
of that and because of what happened

2243
01:45:27,380 --> 01:45:24,660
with the scientist I definitely feel we

2244
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:27,390
are onto something really good and and I

2245
01:45:33,020 --> 01:45:29,930
did this film as a pilot actually

2246
01:45:35,570 --> 01:45:33,030
thinking that it would be a series so

2247
01:45:37,670 --> 01:45:35,580
now I'm actually yeah so now I so

2248
01:45:40,460 --> 01:45:37,680
because of the recognition and the quick

2249
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:40,470
turnaround actually I'm planning the

2250
01:45:46,130 --> 01:45:43,110
next film and it's called the science of

2251
01:45:50,150 --> 01:45:46,140
superhuman and it's gonna be more

2252
01:45:55,220 --> 01:45:50,160
specific now about you know how the

2253
01:45:57,430 --> 01:45:55,230
brain works in terms of bringing

2254
01:46:00,620 --> 01:45:57,440
information tapping into information

2255
01:46:02,900 --> 01:46:00,630
this this first film that we've been

2256
01:46:05,180 --> 01:46:02,910
talking about is the bigger picture

2257
01:46:08,540 --> 01:46:05,190
it's the mechanics of everything all

2258
01:46:11,750 --> 01:46:08,550
together contact in general but this

2259
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:11,760
next film is more specific what does the

2260
01:46:19,010 --> 01:46:15,530
brain have to do to tap into these other

2261
01:46:21,380 --> 01:46:19,020
dimensions what are dimensions where you

2262
01:46:23,690 --> 01:46:21,390
know where are the dimensions is this

2263
01:46:26,210 --> 01:46:23,700
dimension better than that dimension how

2264
01:46:28,220 --> 01:46:26,220
do I know you know what I mean like how

2265
01:46:30,620 --> 01:46:28,230
do I know that I'm tapping here and I'm

2266
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:30,630
not going there so it's like very kind

2267
01:46:35,690 --> 01:46:33,570
of bringing science as well behind how

2268
01:46:38,270 --> 01:46:35,700
the human brain functions within this

2269
01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:38,280
bigger consciousness it's fascinating

2270
01:46:43,310 --> 01:46:41,760
we're also wanting to talk about the

2271
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:43,320
different types of

2272
01:46:50,540 --> 01:46:47,489
why certain people are specifically

2273
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:50,550
attracted to Arcturians why and why

2274
01:46:56,300 --> 01:46:54,000
others platings I mean why why is it

2275
01:47:00,260 --> 01:46:56,310
that specific so we're finding a lot of

2276
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:00,270
that sort of specificity and then we're

2277
01:47:04,459 --> 01:47:02,610
trying to figure out what is it in your

2278
01:47:06,379 --> 01:47:04,469
is it because your brain is done

2279
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:06,389
differently or because it's because it

2280
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:09,210
has to do your lineage so so it's really

2281
01:47:15,890 --> 01:47:12,719
really fascinating and we are also

2282
01:47:22,030 --> 01:47:15,900
talking bringing a lot of the how the

2283
01:47:24,830 --> 01:47:22,040
physics of sound actually works in the

2284
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:24,840
downloading and how the interpretation

2285
01:47:31,580 --> 01:47:28,800
of non-visible energy into a language

2286
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:31,590
that you comprehend basically just the

2287
01:47:37,490 --> 01:47:35,010
specifics of how it works to receive

2288
01:47:40,250 --> 01:47:37,500
this information from somewhere into

2289
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:40,260
this human brain so that's the next film

2290
01:47:47,089 --> 01:47:43,530
Wow interesting so what do you think

2291
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:47,099
about for instance SETI looking for

2292
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:49,110
signals from space do you think they're

2293
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:53,610
looking in the wrong in the wrong way we

2294
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:56,330
actually interviewed the director of

2295
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:00,239
SETI but you know it's not there yeah

2296
01:48:06,109 --> 01:48:03,810
yeah we have him in the show I mean we

2297
01:48:09,140 --> 01:48:06,119
didn't use his interview a eventually

2298
01:48:10,970 --> 01:48:09,150
but because we wanted also to bring in

2299
01:48:13,580 --> 01:48:10,980
everything that's out there

2300
01:48:15,140 --> 01:48:13,590
and you know honestly I mean it just

2301
01:48:17,930 --> 01:48:15,150
kind of doesn't make sense when they

2302
01:48:21,740 --> 01:48:17,940
explain to me exactly how they operate I

2303
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:21,750
mean they have a bunch of those radars

2304
01:48:29,660 --> 01:48:25,280
or whatever you know kind of trying to

2305
01:48:32,149 --> 01:48:29,670
find some sort of signal in space and

2306
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:32,159
and measure any sort of consistency in

2307
01:48:38,379 --> 01:48:34,290
the signal and deciphering the signal

2308
01:48:41,060 --> 01:48:38,389
it's just so random and so kind of

2309
01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:41,070
open-ended with that I don't know it

2310
01:48:43,810 --> 01:48:43,110
just does doesn't make sense to me at

2311
01:48:49,879 --> 01:48:43,820
all

2312
01:48:52,700 --> 01:48:49,889
seriously like it doesn't even make

2313
01:48:55,189 --> 01:48:52,710
sense that extraterrestrial intelligence

2314
01:48:58,580 --> 01:48:55,199
is going to be sending a radio

2315
01:49:01,939 --> 01:48:58,590
signal you know I mean like of course

2316
01:49:04,129 --> 01:49:01,949
it's information itself is not the radio

2317
01:49:05,899 --> 01:49:04,139
it's using the radio frequency that's

2318
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:05,909
why they're calling it radio signal but

2319
01:49:11,419 --> 01:49:08,010
actually it's photon of light it's light

2320
01:49:16,729 --> 01:49:11,429
that is the information within the radio

2321
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:16,739
wave frequency so but really I mean is

2322
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:20,489
this the kind of it just seems so narrow

2323
01:49:26,359 --> 01:49:23,360
and small compared with what's possible

2324
01:49:30,469 --> 01:49:26,369
in terms of communication I've had a

2325
01:49:34,609 --> 01:49:30,479
conversation with seth shostack and he

2326
01:49:37,910 --> 01:49:34,619
basically says well we're doing what we

2327
01:49:40,549 --> 01:49:37,920
think it might be do you have a better

2328
01:49:43,189 --> 01:49:40,559
idea or something like that he said yeah

2329
01:49:46,580 --> 01:49:43,199
and he's adorable I really like him

2330
01:49:49,219 --> 01:49:46,590
funny he's great I really enjoyed

2331
01:49:50,750 --> 01:49:49,229
speaking with him it's just the whole

2332
01:49:54,580 --> 01:49:50,760
concept doesn't make sense to me

2333
01:49:58,069 --> 01:49:54,590
especially that like I said for me as a

2334
01:50:00,169 --> 01:49:58,079
direct experience as I mean I understand

2335
01:50:03,189 --> 01:50:00,179
the mechanics of receiving information

2336
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:03,199
from any point in the universe

2337
01:50:09,169 --> 01:50:06,570
instantaneously you know so the radio

2338
01:50:12,500 --> 01:50:09,179
signal things like really you know so

2339
01:50:16,430 --> 01:50:12,510
anyway you know that's what you say they

2340
01:50:19,219 --> 01:50:16,440
are going to be searching I think in

2341
01:50:22,879 --> 01:50:19,229
different I forget what he told me but

2342
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:22,889
they are as technology improves are

2343
01:50:29,330 --> 01:50:26,010
going to be looking in different ways as

2344
01:50:33,290 --> 01:50:29,340
well you know serve in different

2345
01:50:35,930 --> 01:50:33,300
spectrums or something okay right now if

2346
01:50:38,509 --> 01:50:35,940
there's there's quite a few frequencies

2347
01:50:44,839 --> 01:50:38,519
are looking for but I do understand and

2348
01:50:48,739 --> 01:50:44,849
I I semi agree with you that it's it's I

2349
01:50:50,540 --> 01:50:48,749
don't want to say useless but you know

2350
01:50:53,509 --> 01:50:50,550
if they happen to stumble on something

2351
01:50:55,100 --> 01:50:53,519
great because right now you know

2352
01:50:57,890 --> 01:50:55,110
everyone I don't want to say it's

2353
01:50:59,330 --> 01:50:57,900
totally closed minded but there's a you

2354
01:51:00,979 --> 01:50:59,340
know a lot of people that just think

2355
01:51:05,029 --> 01:51:00,989
it's impossible that world they just

2356
01:51:07,250 --> 01:51:05,039
think we're alone yeah and I I don't

2357
01:51:08,779 --> 01:51:07,260
personally think we're alone but that's

2358
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:08,789
you know that's my own personal

2359
01:51:13,339 --> 01:51:11,760
thoughts yeah but now even scientists

2360
01:51:15,709 --> 01:51:13,349
say we're not alone I mean like it's not

2361
01:51:19,159 --> 01:51:15,719
even mathematically possible to be alone

2362
01:51:21,319 --> 01:51:19,169
I mean so I think we're past that

2363
01:51:25,849 --> 01:51:21,329
but now the proof or whatever I think

2364
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:25,859
that's what they're trying to do yeah I

2365
01:51:30,319 --> 01:51:28,530
don't think we can I don't think we're

2366
01:51:32,270 --> 01:51:30,329
going to ever get any type of government

2367
01:51:33,949 --> 01:51:32,280
disclosure I just don't think that I

2368
01:51:35,989 --> 01:51:33,959
don't think that's going to happen

2369
01:51:41,089 --> 01:51:35,999
I think it'll happen in another way if

2370
01:51:45,169 --> 01:51:41,099
it happens I think so too so why do you

2371
01:51:47,779 --> 01:51:45,179
think if we are being visited by beings

2372
01:51:50,419 --> 01:51:47,789
or we are being visited by UFOs

2373
01:51:54,679 --> 01:51:50,429
why do you think they're elusive and

2374
01:51:57,829 --> 01:51:54,689
that we can't actually you know nail one

2375
01:52:00,379 --> 01:51:57,839
down for evidence let's say yeah for

2376
01:52:02,209 --> 01:52:00,389
several reasons first of all some

2377
01:52:04,669 --> 01:52:02,219
individuals say well why can't I meet

2378
01:52:06,349 --> 01:52:04,679
one so I want to respond to that

2379
01:52:09,859 --> 01:52:06,359
question because a lot of people think

2380
01:52:12,379 --> 01:52:09,869
that way too and and this I know because

2381
01:52:14,719 --> 01:52:12,389
just from teaching and you know

2382
01:52:17,059 --> 01:52:14,729
facilitating for so many years I know

2383
01:52:20,419 --> 01:52:17,069
that I have a lot of students who say

2384
01:52:23,329 --> 01:52:20,429
well why can't I see this or whatever so

2385
01:52:26,209 --> 01:52:23,339
when I try to help them to see where the

2386
01:52:30,379 --> 01:52:26,219
block is I realize that they're saying

2387
01:52:32,539 --> 01:52:30,389
they want to see this entity or have

2388
01:52:36,169 --> 01:52:32,549
this experience and as they're saying it

2389
01:52:40,119 --> 01:52:36,179
then there's this huge block of fear and

2390
01:52:42,609 --> 01:52:40,129
so and so people don't realize that

2391
01:52:46,819 --> 01:52:42,619
consciously they want the experience but

2392
01:52:49,250 --> 01:52:46,829
unconsciously they're terrified so so so

2393
01:52:51,709 --> 01:52:49,260
so that's not how it works the law of

2394
01:52:55,219 --> 01:52:51,719
attraction is not just by you saying it

2395
01:52:57,139 --> 01:52:55,229
it's by you really being it meaning

2396
01:52:59,359 --> 01:52:57,149
meaning it and your intent has to

2397
01:53:01,579 --> 01:52:59,369
correlate be aligned with what you're

2398
01:53:04,369 --> 01:53:01,589
saying so that's one of the reason why

2399
01:53:07,250 --> 01:53:04,379
most people have the experience

2400
01:53:09,979 --> 01:53:07,260
especially as children but they block it

2401
01:53:13,250 --> 01:53:09,989
off they push it to the side they forget

2402
01:53:14,779 --> 01:53:13,260
about it out of fear in addition to that

2403
01:53:16,789 --> 01:53:14,789
then you have the parents and everybody

2404
01:53:19,609 --> 01:53:16,799
else who tells you you're crazy so that

2405
01:53:21,869 --> 01:53:19,619
doesn't help so so that's what happens

2406
01:53:24,089 --> 01:53:21,879
on an individual level but

2407
01:53:25,979 --> 01:53:24,099
on a bigger level like for example so

2408
01:53:28,469 --> 01:53:25,989
why don't they just show up and you know

2409
01:53:29,879 --> 01:53:28,479
somewhere in front of everyone I think

2410
01:53:34,219 --> 01:53:29,889
there's there's several things that are

2411
01:53:37,469 --> 01:53:34,229
going on here one has to do with

2412
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:37,479
agreement I mean it's kind of like what

2413
01:53:42,029 --> 01:53:40,090
happens is like you don't show up at

2414
01:53:44,639 --> 01:53:42,039
your neighbors house without being

2415
01:53:47,549 --> 01:53:44,649
announced or without it's like there are

2416
01:53:51,060 --> 01:53:47,559
universal laws that they're you know

2417
01:53:52,529 --> 01:53:51,070
bigger agreements that are at place and

2418
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:52,539
so what happens is that the

2419
01:54:00,089 --> 01:53:55,530
configuration of the earth is is very

2420
01:54:02,609 --> 01:54:00,099
narrow it's very small and so so the

2421
01:54:04,799 --> 01:54:02,619
agreement is that the the species that

2422
01:54:07,889 --> 01:54:04,809
occupy meaning humans the species that

2423
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:07,899
occupies this planet need to kind of

2424
01:54:15,469 --> 01:54:11,050
have to have a certain level of

2425
01:54:18,359 --> 01:54:15,479
understanding of that law so that this

2426
01:54:21,330 --> 01:54:18,369
communication starts to happen openly

2427
01:54:24,299 --> 01:54:21,340
and it's not there yet so how do I

2428
01:54:27,089 --> 01:54:24,309
explain this it's like it's kind of like

2429
01:54:30,449 --> 01:54:27,099
it's a breach of contract it's a breach

2430
01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:30,459
of agreement that you don't you don't

2431
01:54:37,349 --> 01:54:33,129
fly over an on fly zone you know what I

2432
01:54:40,739 --> 01:54:37,359
mean and so so because humans are not

2433
01:54:43,159 --> 01:54:40,749
capable of communicating are not they're

2434
01:54:47,069 --> 01:54:43,169
not there yet as a global consciousness

2435
01:54:48,659 --> 01:54:47,079
that's the reason why globally a UFO is

2436
01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:48,669
not gonna show up and a bunch of people

2437
01:54:53,330 --> 01:54:50,320
are gonna step out it's not gonna be

2438
01:54:56,069 --> 01:54:53,340
that sort of revelation not now anyway

2439
01:54:58,439 --> 01:54:56,079
well so there are several things going

2440
01:55:00,000 --> 01:54:58,449
on plus there's all the secrecy stuff

2441
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:00,010
going on with the government so there's

2442
01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:03,010
like at different levels the individual

2443
01:55:08,609 --> 01:55:06,159
being fearful the bigger picture you

2444
01:55:10,830 --> 01:55:08,619
know there's all sorts of things at play

2445
01:55:11,580 --> 01:55:10,840
here we only have about three minutes

2446
01:55:15,330 --> 01:55:11,590
left

2447
01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:15,340
oh I know so and someone brought up a

2448
01:55:19,379 --> 01:55:16,840
really good point in the chatroom

2449
01:55:22,109 --> 01:55:19,389
and that is we're a violent you know

2450
01:55:24,389 --> 01:55:22,119
we're very violent so why would they

2451
01:55:25,889 --> 01:55:24,399
want to show us exactly well that that's

2452
01:55:28,770 --> 01:55:25,899
what I'm saying the consciousness the

2453
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:28,780
global consciousness is not very they're

2454
01:55:35,620 --> 01:55:32,050
not at a place of understanding of being

2455
01:55:38,260 --> 01:55:35,630
a cosmic citizenship so what you

2456
01:55:39,970 --> 01:55:38,270
know globally the collective is if you

2457
01:55:43,629 --> 01:55:39,980
see something you don't know you should

2458
01:55:46,090 --> 01:55:43,639
at it so that's the reason why like it's

2459
01:55:47,740 --> 01:55:46,100
it's the level of the collective is not

2460
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:47,750
there as the best reason why it would be

2461
01:55:52,750 --> 01:55:50,090
a breach it's kind of like having a

2462
01:55:55,270 --> 01:55:52,760
child and a closed-off to room you know

2463
01:55:58,240 --> 01:55:55,280
if you open the door suddenly you show

2464
01:56:00,729 --> 01:55:58,250
up it's possible that he's gonna freak

2465
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:00,739
out and you know jump at you or whatever

2466
01:56:05,590 --> 01:56:04,130
or you know so I think that's what

2467
01:56:09,729 --> 01:56:05,600
happened so you have to kind of prepare

2468
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:09,739
the child to this interaction but it's

2469
01:56:16,570 --> 01:56:12,610
bigger than that it's more about a

2470
01:56:19,450 --> 01:56:16,580
global understanding and agreement

2471
01:56:22,419 --> 01:56:19,460
actually that that have to do were on a

2472
01:56:26,140 --> 01:56:22,429
galactic level and that's the reason why

2473
01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:26,150
I had and this is kind of a closing

2474
01:56:34,780 --> 01:56:30,159
statement I had a astrophysicist on this

2475
01:56:37,959 --> 01:56:34,790
show a while back and he said that he

2476
01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:37,969
and his fellows at NASA quietly agreed

2477
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:41,920
that if any intelligence advances

2478
01:56:47,590 --> 01:56:46,250
technologically they get to a bottleneck

2479
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:47,600
and if they can get through that

2480
01:56:53,169 --> 01:56:49,370
bottleneck without destroying themselves

2481
01:56:55,330 --> 01:56:53,179
they'll travel the Stars and I thought

2482
01:56:57,100 --> 01:56:55,340
that was pretty good but thank you so

2483
01:57:00,100 --> 01:56:57,110
much can you once again give your

2484
01:57:06,189 --> 01:57:00,110
website out if you would yes please so

2485
01:57:08,620 --> 01:57:06,199
it is et - contact comm so that's the

2486
01:57:10,479 --> 01:57:08,630
website for the film and it's coming out

2487
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:10,489
in just a few days so people want to go

2488
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:13,010
October 10th if they want to go click on

2489
01:57:16,959 --> 01:57:14,810
watch the film and they'll see where

2490
01:57:19,020 --> 01:57:16,969
it's gonna be available and if people

2491
01:57:22,050 --> 01:57:19,030
are interested in the consciousness work

2492
01:57:26,110 --> 01:57:22,060
they can go to my other website which is

2493
01:57:27,129 --> 01:57:26,120
omnium universe comm excellent well

2494
01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:27,139
thank you so much

2495
01:57:32,470 --> 01:57:28,880
Spencer thanks so much for having me

2496
01:57:35,379 --> 01:57:32,480
you're awesome you take care thanks so

2497
01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:35,389
much bye bye bye alright everyone so

2498
01:57:39,879 --> 01:57:37,040
that's it for the show thank you for

2499
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:39,889
either being a supporter or hanging in

2500
01:57:46,959 --> 01:57:45,050
on YouTube tonight and and we are also

2501
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:46,969
playing on a couple of different radio

2502
01:57:52,540 --> 01:57:49,610
shows and I'll talk about that

2503
01:57:54,430 --> 01:57:52,550
next week there may be a change not in

2504
01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:54,440
this show but my other show that I do

2505
01:57:59,890 --> 01:57:57,290
so anyway next week we have my good

2506
01:58:02,860 --> 01:57:59,900
friend Lee Spiegel on I know is only on

2507
01:58:04,750 --> 01:58:02,870
back in April but he's coming on back

2508
01:58:07,180 --> 01:58:04,760
again he's always a pleasure to have on

2509
01:58:10,230 --> 01:58:07,190
a lot of fun so thanks so much everyone

2510
01:58:13,770 --> 01:58:10,240
and we'll be back next week as always